283 
FOREST AND STREAM 
March 2, 1912 
Olympic Trapshooting Committee. 
Having noticed several letters in your magazine rela¬ 
tive to the fairness of the trap-shooting rules as adopted 
by the Swedish Cllympic Gaines Committee—also answer¬ 
ing your inquiry as to our opinion of same—want to 
say we feel it is entirely fair to enforce the "field 
position," as the United States and Canada are prac¬ 
tically the only countries that shoot the gun to the 
shoulder position, really a small percentage of the coun¬ 
tries that will compete, and because we have adopted 
a style practically of our own is no reason why we 
should ask to be favored. 
The argument, of course, is that it is an amateur 
world’s championship, and that each style of shooting 
should he given its chance to show its superiority, but 
against that we must remember that clay bird shoot.ng 
as we know it to-day is the outcome of the live-bird 
shooting. 
This championship is to decide who are the best shots, 
and we do not believe that anyone would say but that 
the "field position” is the natural pos.tion from which 
shooting must be done, especially when one is hunting. 
We are entering a team for the United States and are 
going over there confident that in this country of ours 
we have just as good shots as there are any place in 
the world. 
The American amateur trap-shooter, we think, is one 
of the fairest, squarest lovers of good fair sport in the 
world, and we believe we voice the sentiment of a very 
large percentage of them when W'e say that we are go¬ 
ing over there to win if we can, asking no favors. If 
we lose, it is because they have better natural shots 
than we have in this country. 
The amateur shooter of America stands for "good, 
clean, fair sport,” and, we believe, has quite cnnigh 
ability to adapt himself to any conditions that are 
adopted by the other countries, and we have yet to meet 
the first one who asks to be favored or would accept 
a favor to increase his chances to win. If at some later 
time these games are held in America, no doubt the 
rules and regulations will allow any style of position 
the shooter cares to adopt, but we feel now that it 
would be unsportsmanlike if the American shooters did 
enter a protest against the conditions as laid down or 
ask that they be changed in any way, as we are invited 
to compete under certain conditions, and when we enter, 
we accept the conditions, and if we do not care to, we 
do not need to compete. 
Above all things we believe that the American sports¬ 
man is not a “quitter” or a “kicker,” and do not feel 
that they want to place themselves on record as such. 
Also, that the team that represents this country, when 
finally selected, will go to Stockholm to win or lose 
gracefully. 
We also feel that the public criticism of the program, 
if continued, will only reflect on the team when they 
arrive at the games, as we find comments made in this 
country are published abroad, whether true or not, but 
we want the good will of all the countries competing. 
The < tlympic Trapshooting Committee requests that 
any trap-shooter who would care to make the all-Amer¬ 
ican amateur team to shoot at Stockholm, Sweden, and 
who is willing to pay his own expense for the trip, send 
his name in to R. L. Spotts, Secretary, No. 105 Hudson 
street. New York city. 
The team will consist of nine men, six to shoot and 
three substitutes, and will be selected by the committee 
from the applications received. 
Anyone who does not make the team and who would 
want to shoot for the "World’s Olympic Individual 
Championship” will have to send in their names as early 
as possible to the secretary. 
Twelve men can represent America. 
On receipt of application particulars of style of shoot¬ 
ing and instructions will be sent. 
C. W. Billings, 
Frank Hall, 
R. L. Spotts, 
Olympic Games Trapshooting Committee. 
International Trapshooting Tournament Program. 
Madison Square Garden, March 2 to 9. 
From March 2 until March 9, inclusive, except Sun¬ 
day, the traps will be open from 11 A. M. to 2 P. M., 
and from 5 to 7:30 P. M., for shooters to qualify for the 
final round ui the championship contest, which will take 
filace on ^Maith 9 at 5 P. AI. Conditions will be is 
follows: *te qualifying rounds will be 50 targets per 
man, re-entries unlimited, entrance price of targets at 2 
cents each. The final round will be 100 targets per man, 
entrance price of targets at 2 cents each. Those eligible 
to compete in the final round in the championship w'l! 
be the ten contestants present having respectively the 
ten highest scores made in the previous qualifying 
rounds shot on any of the preceding days of the tourna¬ 
ment. No contestant can qualify with more than one 
set re, that .score being the highest made by him in any 
qualifying rounds. As re-entries for the qualifying 
rounds are unlimited, any contestant can, during the 
qualifying rounds, try to better any record made by 
him in the previous rounds. 
Prizes.—Prizes .in the International indoor amateur 
championship are as follows: To the winner m the 
final round of the cl i mpionship contest will be do.i.tted 
a handsome gold watch fob, emblematic of the inter¬ 
national indoor amateur championship. To the contest¬ 
ants making the second highest score will be donate .1 a 
silver watch fob. To the contesiu.its making the til'd 
highest score will be donated a bronze watch fob. Hi 
addition to the above prizes, the management will 
donate a prize each day to the contestants making the 
highest score in the qualifying rounds shot that day. 
In case of a tie, such lie will be shot off next day at 
25 till gets. 
Special events will be arranged as the occasion re¬ 
quires. Optional sweeps will he run in connection with 
all practice and scheduled events. Intercity three-man 
team races will be shot in connection with the 50-target 
events. Arrangements can be made with the manage¬ 
ment for special matches, team contests, etc., to be shot 
during the tournament. 
A speciid prize will be piven by the management to 
the professional shooter making the best general average 
during the tournament. lo qualify for this prize, the 
contestant must take part in the competition every day. 
No re-entry score will be' counted. Should a contestant 
shoot two or more scores of 50 targets each on any dav, 
h's fcore on that day shall alone he credited for this 
his score on that day shall alone be credited for this 
average. 
Experts will be in attendance each day from 9 to 11 
o’clock A. M., to give instructions to novices at the 
traps. Make your wants known to the management of 
the tournament. There will be no charge for instruc¬ 
tions. A complete assortment of factory loaded shells 
will be on sale. Hufher J. Squier will manage the shoot. 
For further information write S. M. A'an Allen, Gen 
eral Manager, 339 Fifth avenue. New York. 
Ossining Gun Club. 
Ossining, N. Y., Feb. 23.—The annual president’s 
shoot of the Ossining Gun Club was held on Feb. 22. 
This shoot is so called, for the president of the club. 
Col. Franklin Brandreth, each year donates prizes for 
the members to compete for. This year he donated 
thirty-four silver cups, no two alike. There were thirty- 
one shooters, so very one got a prize. The shooters 
were divided into three classes—A, B and C. Each 
shooter took his choice of a prize according to his score. 
The following are the scores at 50 targets each: 
Class A: 
W H Coleman. 
.. 43 
A L Burns . 
...36 
P Wood . 
.. 39 
A Bedell . 
...35 
D Brandreth . 
.. 39 
Col F Brandreth ... 
...34 
T T Hyland . 
Luke Lyons . 
...32 
C G Blandford . 
.. 38 
R B Lawrence, Tr.. 
... 32 
R B Lawrence . 
.. 38 
W S Smith . 
...31 
G B Huhhell . 
.. 37 
Class B: 
F Zarr . 
.. 36 
S A Kipp . 
...28 
W Hoff . 
.. 36 
\V Fisher . 
...27 
A Sutton. 
.. 35 
A C Hoyt . 
...27 
N I Tuttle . 
.. 32 
F Hahn . 
...25 
T C Barlow . 
.. 31 
Class C: 
E Pratt . 
.. 31 
W Holden . 
... 19 
T H Moran . 
.. 29 
G Brandreth . 
...18 
■il' Wagner . 
.. 
H Carpenter . 
...17 
B Patrick . 
.. 22 
Leon Lyon . 
...16 
N Hubhell . 
.. 21 
Special event, open 
to all, 
15 targets, for three 
cups, 
high guns. This is 
where 
Lawrence, Jr., put it 
over 
his “dad.” 
R B Lawrence, Jr... 
.. 13 
A Bedell . 
...10 
R B Lawrence, . 
.. 12 
Col F Brandreth ... 
... 9 
T T Hyland . 
.. 11 
G B Hubhell . 
... 9 
I") Brandreth . 
.. 11 
F Hahn . 
... 9 
P Wood . 
.. 10 
W S Tuttle . 
C S Blandford . 
.. 10 
W S Smith . 
... 6 
Secretary.^ 
Queens C. C. 
Queens, L. I., Feb. 24.—The principal event was a 
50-target match here to-day for a cup offered by T. R. 
Chapman, which he himself won with a total of 49. In 
a special prize shoot, C. Voegle, H. K. Morrell and W. 
Simonson tied with 46 out of 50. \V. Simonson won the 
shoot-off. The scores: 
Chapman cup, 50 targets, handicap: 
TT 'P 
H. 
T. 
H. 
T. 
T K Chapman. 
...12 
49 
L Homan . 
. 0 
39 
W Hylanil .... 
... 4 
47 
H K Morrall .... 
. 8 
58 
W Simonson .. 
... 0 
46 
C Voegel . 
. 10 
37 
F .Rowland .... 
.... 10 
45 
S Kelsey . 
. 0 
32 
I F Simonson 
... 0 
45 
M Rice . 
. 0 
29 
Dr Cleghorn . 
.... 10 
45 
T M Lord . 
. 0 
29 
Special shoot. 
, 50 targets, 
handicap: 
W Simonson .. 
.... 0 
46 
Captain Foster 
. 0 
40 
H K Morrell.. 
.... 8 
46 
F R Long . 
. 0 
40 
T R Chapman 
.. 12 
44 
S Kelsey . 
. 0 
38 
I F Simonson 
... 0 
44 
Dr Cleghorn .... 
. 10 
34 
Homan ..... 
.... 0 
44 
P Davis . 
. 0 
34 
W Hyland .... 
.... 4 
40 
P M Lord . 
. 0 
32 
F Rowland ... 
.... 10 
40 
M Rice . 
. 0 
26 
Shoot-off, 25 
tarfirets. 
scratch: 
W Simonson ., 
. 0 
22 
C \'oegel . 
. 0 
22 
F K Morrell . 
.... 0 
22 
Mineral Springs Gun Club. 
Willow Grove, Feb. 24. —The Mineral Springs Gun 
Club held an interesting target shoot on the range of 
the Mineral Springs organization this afternoon. Hilte- 
bietel carried off the high-gun trophy, and was also one 
of four “spoon” winners. Other winners were Cooper, 
Nice and Beans. The scores: 
First event, 25 targets, handicap: 
B. H. T. 
B. 
H. 
T. 
Cooper . 
.. 19 4 23 
Roatche . 
.. 16 
8 
24 
Nice . 
.. 22 3 25 
Pierson . 
22 
2 
24 
Hiltebeitel . 
..24 1 25 
Brady . 
... 14 
9 
23 
Bans . 
..159 24 
Worthington . 
...14 
0 
14 
Second event. 
25 targets. 
handicap: 
Cooper . 
..21 3 24 
Roatch . 
...15 
9 
24 
Nice . 
..17 6 23 
Pierson . 
...19 
4 
23 
Hiltebeitel . 
..17 7 24 
Brady . 
...17 
8 
25 
Beans . 
..15 9 24 
Worthington . 
...22 
0 
22 
Third event. 
25 targets. 
handicap: 
Cooper . 
..22 2 24 
Pierson . 
...19 
4 
23 
Hiltebeitel . 
..15 8 23 
Brady . 
... 6 
13 
19 
Beans . 
..18 7 25 
Worthington . 
... 22 
0 
22 
Roatche . 
.. 13 10 23 
Fourth event. 
25 targets. 
handicap: 
Cooper . 
..20 3 23 
Roatche . 
...13 
10 
23 
Hiltebeitel . 
..18 6 24 
Pierson . 
... 17 
5 
22 
Beans . 
..17 8 25 
Worthington . 
...19 
0 
19 
Harrisburg Sportsmen’s Association. 
Harrisburg, Pa., Feb. 22.—The Harrisburg Sports¬ 
men’s Association held its annual live-bird shoot on 
their usual date, Washington’s Birthday. The program 
called for 20 live birds. This was the rawest day of the 
season, wind blowing a hundred miles an hour, thus 
keeping many shooters away. The big race could not 
be shot off. A 10-bird race was opened at ?5 entrance, 
in which eleven participated. In the second event, also 
a 10-bird race, fifteen entered at $5. John Shupp served 
as referee in the first event, and Lutz in the second 
event. 
In event No. 1. Oliver, of Harrisburg, and John 
Rehrig, of Port Carbon, Pa., were high guns with 9 
kills. This showed exceptional skill in this gale of wind. 
Dinger, the old “skeeter,” and Worden landed second 
money with 8 kills. Sam Trafford, of Lebanon, Pa., 
scored T alone for third money—a great honor to his 
credit. Eisenhour lost 6 birds in this event, but showed 
the boys his skill when he landed for first money in 
the second event. 
Emmers and Ziegler, both of Royersford, Pa., arrived 
in time to enter in the second event and landed for 
second money. They invited the boys to their grounds 
for their registered tournament on June 1, 1912. 
Worden and Eisenhour. both of the home club, landed 
first money with 8 kills. Fred wasn’t in it this time. 
Seven kills was the second money in this event and 
was won by five contestants, viz.. Oliver, Emmers, 
Ziegler, Schmoyer and Dinger—a sandwich and a cup 
of coffee. George W ashington Trafford got third money 
with 6 kills and losing 2 dead out of bounds—exception¬ 
ally well done for G. W. 
The events were completed at 4:30 P. M. with but 
fifteen contestants, owing to the fearful storm. Two 
years ago sixty-five shooters had entered the game. 
About 900 birds were left untouched, which will very 
likely be shot on another date. 
Hot coffee and sandwiches were always in readiness 
for the trappers and members. 
Lesneski and Schmoyer agreed to shoot a 25-bird race 
for $25 in the near future. Grounds neutral. 
Event No. 1, 10 birds, entrance $5: 
Oliver . 9 Eisenhour 
Dinger . S Reed _ 
Shieffer . 6 Lesneski 
Martin . 5 Lutz . 
Trafford . 7 Rehrig 
Worden . 8 
Event No. 2, 10 birds, mitrance $5: 
Oliver . 7 Eisenhour 
Emmers . 7 “Bob” ... 
Ziegler . 7 Haines .. 
Worden . 8 Cadalac .. 
Martin . 4 Frantz 
Hoffman . 2 Schmoyer 
Rehrig . 5 Dinger '.. 
Trafford . G 
Luddy. 
4 
4 
5 
4 
9 
8 
3 
5 
3 
2 
7 
7 
Registered Tournaments. 
The tournaments re.gistered with the Interstate Asso¬ 
ciation during the week ending Feb. 24, follow: 
April 27-28.—Chicago (III.) G. C. E. B. Shogren, Sec’y. 
May 2-3.—Kankakee (Til.) G. C. E. F. Radeke, Sec’y. 
May 15.—Spring Valley (Minn.) G. C. I. M. Carey, Sec. 
May 23 24.—Lexington, Ky.—Kentucky State tournament, 
under the auspices of the Fayette G. C. F. C. Bell, 
Sec’y. 
May 23-24.—Delta (Colo.) G. C. R. A. King, Pres. 
May 23.—Portage (Wis.) G. C. J. Raup, Sec’y. 
May 30.—Buffalo (N. Y.) Audubon Club. B. \'. Covert, 
Pres. ' 
June 15.—Bunker Hill (Ill.) G. C. W. Fahrenkrog, Sec. 
July 9-11.—Little Rock, Ark.—Arkansas State tourna¬ 
ment, under the auspices of the Little Rock G. C. 
Geo. W. Clements, Mgr. 
July 20—Danbury, Conn.—Western Connecticut Trap- 
shooters’ League tournament, under the auspices of 
the Pahquioque G. C. E. H. Bailey, Sec’y. 
Aug. 1. — Plattsville (Wis.) G. C. F. J. Bridges, Sec’y. 
Aug. 10-11.—Chicago (Ill.) G. C. E. B. Shogren, Sec’y. 
Elmer E. Shaner, Sec’y-Treas. 
Eagle Gun Club. 
Manoa, Pa., Feb. 24.—A dozen marksmen took part 
in the weekly event of the Eagle Gun Club this after¬ 
noon at Manoa, and Wolfenden and Bivens made 
straights. Dideon had a possible chance to also share 
in first money until he called for his last bird. That 
pigeon proved to be a screamer, and taking a left quar¬ 
tering flight, escaped both barrels. This put Gideon in 
a tie with four others for scond money. The scores: 
Wolfenden, 28 . 10 
Bivens, 30 .10 
Gideon, 29 . 9 
Tackson, 29 . 9 
Soley, 28 . 9 
Slear, 30 . 9 
Mack, 30 . 9 
Webb, 30 . 8 
Coyle, 2 8 . 8 
Fisher, 30 . 7 
Emmerson, 28 . 7 
Kirsch, 28 . 7 
Nonlclair Gun Club. 
Montclmr, N. j., Feh. 24. —The fourth leg on the 
members’ trophy was shot to-day. It was won by J. C. 
y'Vtwater. Edward Winslow leads with two victories, 
while (Trane and Atwater each have one. The scores: 
First round: 
I C Atwater. 
24 
E Winslow . 
.... 7 
23 
George Boxall .... 
.. 3 
22 
G Hamilton .... 
.... 6 
14 
I S Crane. 
.. 6 
24 
Second round: 
Atwater . 
0 
25 
\\ inslow . 
18 
Boxall . 
,, 3 
24 
Hamilton . 
21 
Crane . 
.. 5 
25 
In the shoot-off between Atwater and Crane the former 
won—(5) 21 to Crane’s ( 6 ) 22. 
