July 12, 1966 
Mr. Fred C. Sibley 
1013 Sunset Place 
Ojai, California 93023 
Dear Fred: 
Jan just brought me the letter you wrote asking for additional 
information on gull skins from the Project collection. I don't 
expect to be talking with Chuck again before he leaves Honolulu 
to' ask if you wrote to him about the paper but of course presume that 
you and Bob cleared with him before starting it. This is our 
regular procedure and keeps people from starting a paper which some¬ 
one else has already decided to write'. I talked with Dr. Humphrey 
who had also not heard anything about it. Please let me know right 
away as X cannot release information about the skins (these are not 
as yet in the public domain) unless I have approval from either 
Dr. Humphrey or Dr. Pyle. 
Dr. Humphrey suggested that you should probably include any 
sight records of gulls. Have you these already? He also wondered 
if you would require any photographs (if, indeed, we have nay'.). 
Sari Baysinger came back yesterday and said that he had seen 
you at a banding meeting recently - I gather that the condor popu¬ 
lations is still unbanded? This reminds me that we banded 162,000 
birds in three weeks on the last Leewards trip - Crossin banded 
4,500 in one night and Balcorab did 4,800 about two days later. 
Dick wondered how Larry liked being third best 1 
Do let me know right away if Chuck approved your paper and, if 
so, what number he assigned it. I just checked through my list to make 
sure and do not see your name connected with any gulls. We have 
had a minimum of confusion with the change in Honolulu but we may well 
have suffered a communication lag there. Do allow time for final 
clearance also when the paper is done. 
Best regards to you and Peggy - 
Church 
