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6 . None of these activities are included in Coast Guard budgets. 
7 . The limit of two men was to include all non-Coast Guard personnel. 
The extra duty involved amounts to 10 percent increase in personnel 
work load, which is already cut short and carefully regulated for sake 
of Coast Guard morale. 
8 . Due to the trend of conversation, I did not push my ideas. 
I tried to explain that many of the apparent discrepencies in 
changes in plan were due to evolution of the program and the information 
needed from us. For example--first a request for up to six reople 
for a few days and then later for two to four, four times a year. 
Now we have two permanently and others from time to time. They acted 
as though they thought they were getting a raw deal--something being put 
over on them. 
General Summary--Coast Guard ik is definitely not happy. Claim to have 
been letting things go thinking that it would soon be over. Veiled 
threats that they could kick us off both islands anytime with present 
agreements. Capt. Crosbey stated need for written presentation of our 
desires, needs, etc. through DTC very soon. 
Suggestion and I agreed: 
1 . Need for meeting with Coast Guard, DTC and S.I. to present, 
re-evaluate and agree upon future activities. This could be initiated 
by written program from S. I. and staff level meeting with Coast Guard 
1^-. Probable personnel - Ely, Hutson, Sudduth and/or Bushman, and 
several staff men. (Capts. Johnson and Crosbey probably). The results 
could then be passed on by CO, ikth Coast Guard district, Rear admiral 
C. C. Kffapp. 
Next need to talk with Bushman and Hutson. Capts. Johnsen and 
Crosbey seemed unaware of the visit by the medical committee. Both 
talked of a recent visit which sounded like the latter group. I T 11 
bet they still have those dates mixed up. 
t I was definitely on the defensive and it is obvious that Coast 
Guard ik has final word barring some very high level orders from very 
top of organization. 
2 . I recommended that we do not pus<ph the question of a third 
man for Kure at this time. 
3* I recommended that French Frigate Shoals not be discussed 
at this time. 
k. Both Col. Hutson and Bushman will be informed of this meeting. 
