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we can do is to make ourselves the head herdsman. And if milk 
and butter raising is to be a success in this state, and we have to 
rely upon our hired help to abstract that milk and make the cheese 
and butter, I should wish to have the experience of Mr. Favill, 
or any other gentleman, in reference to our hired help. For in¬ 
stance, twenty dollar-a-month men for the summer ; have you 
ever found them reliable to feed your cows and treat them kindly t 
keep them clean, and milk them well without abusing them ? 
I know that the greatest fault in reference to my hired men is, in 
the first instance, they have high tempers, using a great deal of bad 
language and a great deal of boot-toe, and making the cows wild 
and nervous. 
Tn reference to the cultivation of either cheese or butter, we want 
to try to inaugurate upon our farms a more careful consideration 
among our hired help. I can send a boy to plow, if I only mind 
and give him a good pair of horses, such as he is not afraid will run 
away. There is something about plowing with horses, where a man 
can tell if he has done a good day’s work, but with reference to 
milking and managing stock, those men will shirk it. 
I have a man I call my foreman, I think I can rely upon him won- 
defolly at times, but at other times 1 think he is about the worst 
shirk I ever saw. I think there is a great deal for a farmer to learn 
in managing his help. That is the worst experience I have had in 
my farming operations. 
Mr. Favill. I would inquire if the gentleman has learned to 
manage himself? I don’t know anything about it, but ‘that is very 
likely to he the trouble. I confess, to a very serious difficulty in this 
matter. But you remember the remark I made just now. Any per¬ 
son thinking of engaging in the business must count the cost, and 
that cost would be personal, attention. With our dairymen it has 
come to be understood that the men have got to milk, and to do it 
as they are directed, or else we don’t hire them. I turned off, not 
long ago, as good a man as I ever had to work, just because he didn't 
treat the cows kindly, and if they leave me alone with the cows to 
milk, I will get the calves to suck them before I will have a man 
around that will ill-treat my cows. I say to them, “if you can’t 
milk without swearing and scolding at the cows, let them alone and 
I will get somebody else.’* But we have got to learn to manage 
ourselves and do the best we can with our men, and yet we will have 
