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erty just as be chooses. If these men are interfering with our 
rights, it is our province to restrain them; and we must send men 
to our legislatures who will not allow, or see a greater rate of inter¬ 
est than the health of the country, as increased by its labor, will 
permit, and then we have a measure that is used for measuring the 
values we have created; and when we see a dollar we know what a 
dollar is. 
Mr. Anderson: I don’t get up for the purpose of making a 
speech, only to make a few remarks. I will illustrate what I con¬ 
ceive to be money. I claim that money is a material, and that ma¬ 
terial is stamped by the government, whether it is paper or gold, 
and that its value is legal. Gold is not money unless it is stamped 
by some government to make it money. Therefore, the value is 
not in the gold but it is in the law to make it money. I don’t blame 
Mr. Leland, or any other gentleman engaged in national banking, 
for opposing a greenback-party, or a greenback currency. The 
profits of those national banks are great, and they will fight a 
greenback-man. Mr. Marshall, of Illinois, stated how one of the 
national banks was created. He said he had some friends down 
east w r ho took $300,000 and bought $300,000 worth of government 
bonds with them. They went to the bank comptroller in Wash¬ 
ington, and deposited those bonds and organized a bank, and got a 
bank-charter. The bank comptroller gave them $270,000 in na¬ 
tional currency. Of course, they brought it home and loaned it 
out to the people for ten per cent. What did this government 
receive in return from that corporation for that $270,000? Only 
the deposit of $30,000 more than we pay them, and yet we are 
paying them six per cent, on that. There was $270,000 they could 
loan at ten per cent., $27,000 a year, and six per cent, on the 
$30,000 is $45,000 per annum for leaving with the government 
$30,000 worth of bonds more than they issued. 
The truth is, the national banks, are becoming wealthy. They 
have a greater power than the old banks on which Gen. Jackson 
placed his foot. There are two thousand of those banks, and the} r 
are becoming a power to-day. There are over seventy bank-presi¬ 
dents in Congress to-day, and not over three farmers. That is the 
reason you have to pay a high rate of interest. If the greenback 
can be converted into a low'-interest bond, I believe the rate of in- 
teres will be vastly reduced. Mr. Leland stated that no person was 
