July ii, 1908.] 
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FOREST AND STREAM 
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ammunition Goes to Engleovd 
NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA 
In Co-Operation 
With The 
NATIONAL BOARD FOR PROMOTION OF RIFLE PRACTICE 
TT . , „ _ Hibbs Building, Washington, D. C., June 5, 1908. 
united States Cartridge Company, Lowell, Mass.: 
GENTLEMEN. We have the honor to submit herewith the report of the committee from the executive committee of the 
ationa if e Association of America which had in charge the test of ammunition to determine what should be used by the 
American team in the International Olympic Rifle Matches, to take place in England in July of this year. 
e result of the test which was conducted with great care and under careful supervision, representatives of the three companies 
submiting ammunition being continuously present, was as follows: 
Grand aggregate, mean vertical deviation, of all record shots 
1st. The United States Cartridge Co., 180 grain bullet 
2nd. The United States Cartridge Co., 150 grain bullet 
3rd. Winchester Repeating Arms Co., 190 grain bullet 
4th. Union Metallic Cartridge Co., 180 grain bullet . 
5th. Union Metallic Cartridge Co., 202 grain bullet . 
The committee has therefore chosen the United States Cartridge Company 180 grain bullet cartridge as the ammunition to be 
used by the team. 
(Signed) WILLIAM P. HALL, Brigadier General, U. S. A. 
(Signed) LAURASON RlGGS, Brigadier General, Maryland National Guard. 
(Signed) JAMES A. DRAIN, Brigadier General, National Guard of Washington. 
MANUFACTURED BY 
UNITED STATES CARTRIDGE COMPANY. Lowell. Mass.. U.S.A. 
„ 497-503 Pearl St.. 35-43 Park St.. New York. 268 Market St.. San Francisco. ^ 
fi red: 
. . 2.83 in. 
. . 3.14 in. 
. 4.12 in. 
5.02 in. 
5.02 in. 
Watertown Gun Club. 
Watertown, Mass.- — The shoot and basket lunch of 
the Watertown Gun Club, held July 4, was enjoyed by 
; about sixteen shooters and their friends. The pro¬ 
gramme called for 100 targets, divided in events of 10 
. targets each, three men up. The day being hot, the plan 
of short events, and plenty of room in which to shoot 
them, was approved by all who were present. 
The invitation for ladies to turn out resulted in quite 
a number responding, and the lunches they prepared, 
I when spread in the shade of the trees, certainly looked 
and tasted good. Wright won first shoot for the case 
! of silver. 
Events: 
Targets: 
! Wright, 18 . 
Jordan, 20 . 8 
Blinn, 16 . 
| Roy, 20 . 
Atwood, 17 . 
Morse, 16 . 
French, 16 . 
Hardy, 18 . 
j Faye, 16 . 
Harrigan, 16 . 
| Toppan, 16 . 
| Richardson, 16 .... 
i Lynde, 16 . 
Buckman . 
Hebbard . 
James . 
Driver . 
1 
9 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
10 
10 
10 
10 
10 
10 
10 
10 
10 
10 
Total. 
10 
10 
10 
8 
10 
9 
8 
9 
9 
10 
93 
8 
10 
8 
7 
10 
8 
9 
9 
9 
10 
88 
8 
10 
8 
8 
8 
7 
10 
9 
10 
9 
87 
8 
8 
7 
8 
9 
9 
9 
10 
7 
9 
84 
8 
» 
9 
6 
10 
8 
9 
7 
8 
8 
82 
5 
8 
9 
9 
8 
10 
10 
8 
7 
7 
81 
10 
9 
8 
8 
8 
5 
8 
7 
10 
7 
80 
9 
10 
6 
5 
8 
9 
8 
9 
7 
8 
79 
9 
9 
5 
6 
10 
7 
7 
6 
9 
8 
76 
9 
8 
10 
9 
8 
7 
4 
7 
7 
7 
76 
7 
7 
9 
6 
8 
9 
9 
4 
8 
8 
75 
9 
6 
6 
6 
7 
8 
8 
10 
7 
6 
73 
7 
9 
S 
5 
8 
6 
5 
7 
8 
7 
70 
10 
8 
9 
7 
9 
9 
10 
9 
S 
9 
9 
9 
8 
9 
. . 
Rice . 
. 9 9 
14 
13 11 8 10 
8 13 8 
165 
103 
Vrooman . 
.. 6 12 
17 
14 17 13 .. 
.. 15 10 
130 
104 
Dutcher . 
16 
9 14 12 .. 
9 16 12 
120 
88 
Betts . 
.. 8 13 
02 
10 15 9 15 
115 
90 
Hedges . 
14 
10 16 14 17 13 .. 12 
120 
96 
Shorey . 
.. 9 13 
13 
14 .. 11 .. 
13 .. 12 
105 
85 
Adams . 
.. 8 10 
12 
10 14 7 .. 
95 
61 
Hudson . 
.. .. 7 
13 
13 10 10 .. 
10 .. .. 
100 
63 
Charles . 
.. ..12 
10 
9 4 6.. 
7 .. .. 
100 
48 
Beckford . 
.. 8 11 
11 
8 15 11 
95 
64 
Porter . 
.. 5 11 
16 
11 15 13 .. 
95 
71 
Craver . 
..7 8 
15 
10 12 10 .. 
95 
62 
D E Roberts... 
.. 10 9 
15 
13 16 .. .. 
SO 
63 
Clark .-. 
.. 9 10 
17 
14 .. 8 .. 
75 
58 
Calkins . 
.. 5 13 
17 
7 .. 10 .. 
75 
52 
Harris . 
.. 9 14 
16 
9 15 .. . 
SO 
53 
Mrs Butler ... 
9 
5 12 11 .. 
70 
37 
Gemmill . 
17 
9 12 .. .. 
55 
38 
Mann . 
..79 
16 
10. 
60 
42 
F T Smith. 
10 
8. 
8 .. .. 
50 
26 
Hill . 
.. .. 14 
14 
35 
28 
H H Smith.... 
S 14 .. 
35 
22 
Ruth . 
.. 9 11 .. 
35 
20 
Miss Ruth . 
9 
15 
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Rubber Sandwich Wads. 
The above description seems to be the most appro¬ 
priate for a sample of wads which a correspondent re¬ 
cently forwarded to this office, with the offer of further 
supplies if it was thought worth while giving them a 
practical trial. In point of fact, the four wads sub¬ 
mitted in the first letter provided ample material for 
making a comparative test. The wads consisted of a 
thin card on either side of a layer of rubber, the whole 
united as a single wad in a manner that suggested the 
simile used to describe them. In favor of these wads it 
is claimed that they give “better penetration, better pat¬ 
tern, and of course longer range.’’ The following com¬ 
parative tests were made with cartridges loaded with 
1 1-16 oz. charges, one series with standard wadding, the 
other with the rubber sandwich wad over the powder and 
a %in. felt instead of the ordinary 7-16in. felt, to allow 
for the extra space taken up by the special over¬ 
powder wad: 
COMPARATIVE RESULTS WITH STANDARD AND RUBBER 
J. J. Farrell, Sec’y. 
Mountain View Gun Club. 
Troy, N. Y., July 4. —-The Mountain View Gun Club 
held an afternoon tournament to-day on their grounds 
at Sycaway. This shoot was very successful, and we 
ill had' a good day’s sport. 
Mr. Hurd was high gun, he breaking 149 out of 165. 
fn fact, everybody shot very well. 
Next Saturday we will attend the tournament of the 
t Oak Hill Gun Club, at Pittsfield, Mass. 
We are making great preparations for our Home Week 
tournament, on Sept. 7 and 8. We will have $100 added 
money, also average money, and a number of prizes. 
- This shoot we will make the greatest ever held in this 
section. 
The following are to-day’s scores: 
Events: 
i Targets: 
Hurd . 
Hudson Gun Club. 
Jersey City, N. J., July 5.— Appended are scores 
made at the regular bi-monthly shoot of the Hudson 
Gun Club, on July 5. The day was very warm and 
sultry, making it very hard to stand' in the sun and 
shoot after event No. 3, which was the club handicap. 
Events 4 and 5 were shot from the 25yd. mark, in the 
shade, which accounts for some of the low scores. 
The Hudson Gun Club hold shoots bi-monthly all 
summer; schedules can be obtained from the secretary, 
T. H. Keller, 45 Garrison avenue, Jersey City. All 
shooters are welcome. Targets are thrown at one cent 
each. 
SANDWICH WADDING. 
;. Amberite, 
1 l-16oz. shot, 
Standard wadding. 
Pressure 
Velocity over 
in tons. 
Recoil 
20 yards in 
per sq.in. 
in inches. 
feet per second. 
.. 3.14 
10.54 
1117 
. 2.90 
10.54 
1137 
.. 3.30 
10.20 
1097 
,. 3.06 
10.62 
1137 
... 3.10 
10.47 
1122 
The same powder charge, with rubber sandwich wad ovei 
Events: 1 2 
Targets: 25 25 
Putney . 21 19 
Williams . 18 23 
Kelley . 19 
Malcomb . 
J Pape . 
E G Heritage. 17 
Hughes . 20 
Werner . 
20 
16 
20 
19 
22 
19 
25 HaJ 1 . 
20 2 22 
15 2 17 
17 2 19 
5 
4 
6 
9 
20 
18 
16 
18 
25 
22 
09 
20 
4 5 
25 25 
14 15 
20 12 
15 .. 
14 .. 
14 .. 
15 .. 
16 15 
20 IS 
5. 
9 99 
O . uL 
10.84 
1150 
6. 
3.71 
10.90 
115S 
7. 
3.34 
10.74 
lost 
8. 
3.67 
10.80 
1130 
Average.. 
. 3.48 
10.82 
1146 
’arrell 
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Shot 
Whitley . 
. 19 
19 
19 
3 
22 
18 
20 
10 15 20 15 20 15 20 15 20 15 
at. 
Brk. 
O’Brien . 
22 
21 
19 
2 
21 
15 
9 15 17 13 18 13 16 15 19 14 
165 
149 
Farley .... 
.. 15 
11 
13 
9 12 17 12 18 13 18 14 19 14 
165 
146 
Burns . 
. 19 
24 
24 
0 
24 
22 
10 15 19 14 19 15 13 12 15 13 
165 
145 
Geise . 
. 15 
18 
16 
12 
6 12 19 15 18 15 18 12 19 10 
165 
144 
Anderson . 
. 25 
19 
2i 
0 
21 
18 
17 
8 11 19 14 17 13 18 12 17 14 
165 
143 
Carrol .. 
. 9 
11 
14 
0 
14 
6 
8 
8 13 16 15 18 14 19 11 15 14 
165 
143 
Doc . 
. 19 
17 
21 
0 
21 
15 
13 
8 9 15 11 11 12 13 7 13 6 
165 
105 
T. 
H. 
K., 
Sec’y. 
The velocities were unusually high in both series, no 
doubt because the temperature was high, being 76 de¬ 
grees F., at the time of shooting. The intention of the 
rubber wad, according to its introducer, is to make a 
gas-tight piston with the least possible friction. This is 
all very well in theory, but it omits to take account of 
the fact that the ordinary system of wadding already 
provides a gas-tight piston, which is therefore not a 
special property of rubber. Again, as regards friction, 
the facts seem to point in the opposite direction, for the 
obvious effect of the use of a rubber layer in the wad¬ 
ding is to increase pressure, recoil, and velocity. In 
other words the rubber wad increases the activity of the 
powder, so that, while it would be an advantage in the 
case of a weak powder, it would equally be a disadvan¬ 
tage in the case of a strong powder, and an unnecessary 
interference with satisfactory conditions in the case of 
an ordinary powder behaving in an ordinary fashion.— 
Field (London). 
