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^Sept. 19, 1908.] 
Atlantic Coast Conference. 
There is to be a meeting of the Atlantic 
oast Conference at the New York Y. C.’s 
iwn house on Thursday, Oct. 8. The call for 
iis meeting has been sent out by Charles Lane 
oor, the secretary, on instructions from W. 
utler Duncan, Jr., the chairman. This call, 
hich has been sent to all yacht clubs, is as 
!>llows: 
NEW YORK YACHT CLUB. 
New York, Sept. 8, 1908. 
Dear Sir—Mr. W. B. Duncan, Jr., chairman of the 
ichting conference, has directed me to call a meeting 
the conference on Thursday, Oct. 8, 1908, at 8 P.M., 
the New York Yacht-Club house, 37 West Forty-fourth 
reet, to consider changes in the measurement and racing 
les. 
It is hoped that your club will send representatives, 
.d in order that each and every club represented may 
iow the business to be presented at the meeting, it is 
quested that you will send on or before Sept. 24 a list 
your delegates and alternates, together with a list of 
e specific recommendations which you desire to pre- 
nt to the conference. On receipt of the various lists 
,ey will be tabulated and a notice of all recommenda- 
ons and proposed amendments to the measurement and 
icing rules will be mailed to the various clubs and asso- 
ations that accept this invitation on Oct. 1. And only 
i ich recommendations or amendments as are contained 
i such lists will be submitted to the conference. 
The conference from its very nature is and must be 
(formal, and each club is at liberty to send as many 
ipresentatives as it deems proper. The conference can 
;t in an advisory capacity only ; its acts cannot be bind- 
ig upon any club or association, but it is hoped that 
s conclusions may be such that the representatives of 
ich and every club will urge their adoption by their 
bme organization. Yours very truly, 
Charles Lane Poor, 
Secretary of Conference. 
Just what business will be transacted at this 
I onference it is hard to state just now, but as 
| aere are many clubs that will be represented, 
i nd as nearly all of these have grievances of 
! ome sort or another, it is safe to assume that 
tany suggestions will be made which will be 
ubmitted to the delegates. One question that 
ill be discussed is the present rule of measure- 
lent. There are some yachtsmen who do not 
; ivor it at all and who maintain that it has failed 
j l what was expected of it, but it is very doubt- 
Ltl if those who are opposed to the rule will 
| e able to have many radical changes made, 
he rule has produced" a good wholesome type 
.f boat. It has naturally worked rather hard 
gainst those yachts that were built under the 
| revious rule. 
It is probable that some new method of 
neasuring the yachts will be suggested and 
: cted on. This measurement has been a 
roublesome one with all, and at times it has 
aused some complications. Many claim that 
yacht might be measured according to the 
} resent formal by several measurers and each 
me would make a different rating. 
Another point that will be raised is the ques- 
ion of time allowance. Just now the table of 
llowances are figured on 70 per cent, of the full 
! heoretical allowance, which some think is too 
! auch and should not be more than 60 per cent, 
j 'hose who have made a careful study of this 
llowance question have figures to show that 
he 70 per cent, allowance is not too much, 
. nit some yacht owmers who sail and race the 
irger yachts are satisfied that if the allowance 
iad been 60 per cent, they would have a larger 
: ollection of trophies than they have now. 
I Another point that \vill be raised in all pro- 
! bility is the ratings of schooners and yawls 
ailing against sloops. The rule now is that 
| chooners rate at 85 per cent, of their full rating 
i nd yawls at 93 per cent. It has always been 
I aaintained that a schooner, on account of her 
ails being more cut up, cannot sail as close 
o the wind as the sloop, but the modern 
chooners, like Queen, has disproved this 
I heory, and in her races Queen has shown that 
; he can sail just as close to the wind as a 
i loop, and when she has the wind abeam or 
I ft of the beam, she can sail much faster than 
he sloop. It is in races like that for the King’s 
1 up that yachts of different rigs come together, 
nd this question will without doubt be thrashed 
! ,ut - 
The yachting conference, which was called by 
| he New York Y. C. a few years ago, has ac- 
| omplished much. The representatives of the 
lanv clubs and associations discuss all matters 
brought to their attention, and after a full ex¬ 
change of ideas, they agree on some rule, and 
then each delegate reports back to his club and 
the club has generally adopted the suggestions 
of the conference. The result of this work has 
been that all the clubs racing on the Atlantic 
Coast, with the exception of a few that have 
headquarters in some shallow harbor, have 
adopted one rule, and that rulejias since been 
adopted by the Canadian clubs, by the clubs 
racing on the Great Lakes and is to be adopted 
this winter by the Pacific Coast clubs. Uniform 
racing rates have been adopted the only differ¬ 
ences being such as are allowed to suit local 
conditions. Now a yachtsman can race any¬ 
where and he knows that the rule of his home 
club is the same as the rule where he may be 
visiting, and he does not have to study one set 
for to-day’s contest and another for to¬ 
morrow’s. 
British to Try for Motor Cup. 
The British motor yachtsmen have now 
learned from those who came here with the 
Wolseley-Siddeley and Daimler II., just how 
and why Dixie II. succeeded in defeating them 
in the race for the British International cup, and 
have been able calmly to review the situation. 
It is settled in their minds that to win the cup 
again, a study will have to be made of the con¬ 
ditions and other details, and that to put a 
powerful motor in any old hull built strong 
enough to withstand the strains will not do, and 
that they must build the hull to suit the motor 
and so make one harmonious whole. The 
Motor Boat, of London, has this to say of the 
race which was decided off Huntington: 
“Both the British challengers—Wolseley- 
Siddeley and Daimler II.—for the International 
motor boat cup, are, of course, back in Eng¬ 
land now and making final preparations for the 
Olympic races, and it has, therefore, been pos¬ 
sible to discuss the race in all its aspects with 
those who actually took part in it. As the out¬ 
come of one such conversation we are able to 
dispose entirely of a suggestion put forth by 
several people that the race might quite well 
have been run on Saturday, and that it was 
only postponed because of the conditions then 
prevailing were not suited to Dixie II. 
“The sea was really rough, and though 
Wolseley-Siddeley could have faced it going 
slow, it would not have been safe to drive her 
at full power. In fact, the conditions were such 
that the race would certainly have been post¬ 
poned at Monte Carlo, or, probably, anvwhere 
in England, quite irrespective of the sea-going 
qualities of any of the competitors. All our 
readers we know will, like ourselves, be more 
than glad to hear this, more especially as the 
Olympic games have certainly not done much 
to improve relations between the sporting sec¬ 
tions of the two nations. Any further contre¬ 
temps would very possibly have dealt a serious 
blow to international sport, and we cannot, 
therefore, too strongly emphasize the fact that 
the imputation referred to above is entirely 
without justification. As additional proof of 
this, we have the assurance of one who went 
out in a 160ft. boat to inspect the course, and in 
process of doing so, when running quite slowly, 
three seas were shipped,- It is not, therefore, 
difficult to imagine how a racing boat of exactly 
a quarter the length would have fared under the 
same conditions. 
“There is room for much speculation regard¬ 
ing the future 'of 'the contest. It will be ad¬ 
mitted that Wolseley-Sidderly has proved the 
best 40-footer of the year for European racing 
where a good deal of knocking about always has 
to be put up- with, and it has also been proved 
than an entirely different tyne can be built that 
is better suited to the peculiarly favorable con¬ 
ditions met with in American waters—the Dixie 
type, in fact. Now we are convinced that a 
Dixie II. could not have raced at Monaco last 
April in the 50 kilometers event, and it follows, 
therefore, that to ‘lift’ the B. I. trophy a chal¬ 
lenger must be built for that special purpose 
and not with a view of going the round of all 
the principal home and Continental meetings. 
“To go to the • expense of building a boat 
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