FOREST AND STREAM. 
[Oct. 3, 1908. 
546 
months she deeded it to the club for a period 
of 99 years. 
“At present the light shown in the tower is 
steady, but on account of the difficulty in dis¬ 
cerning it from the hundreds of lights along the 
shores, the club intends next year to install a 
flashlight. 
“Commodore Daniel Robinson of the yacht 
club is the man whose efforts made it possible 
to have the light. The yacht club has at present 
a membership of about 140, while there are a 
little more than 125 power boats on the lake. 
The largest of these power boats is Island Belle, 
33ft. over all, and large enough to carry nearly 
fifty people. It is the property of John,Collins, 
a -student at the University of Maine.” 
Class R for Gravesend Bay. 
In all probability the yachtsmen on Graves¬ 
end Bay will boom Class R 18ft. sloops this 
winter and have some fine racing next season. 
For some vears Class Q has been the leading 
class on G'ravesend Bay, and there are some 
yachtsmen who would like to see it kept up and 
who are willing to build new boats, but others 
think that for afternoon racing the_ 22-footer is 
just a little too expensive, and that just as much 
fun can be had in a smaller and less costly boat. 
This is true, but it seems a pity that after 
Class Q has been boomed so much and so much 
good sport has been furnished by the boats of 
this class that it should be dropped and a 
smaller class taken up. The Thompson cup is 
for the Q boats, and if a smaller class is pro¬ 
moted. it will mean- that the conditions govern¬ 
ing this cup will have to be changed, lhere is 
a "clause in the deed that allows this; but in 
making the change, F. T. Bedford, who won the 
first series with Eleanor, will have to be con¬ 
sidered. It is said, though, that Mr. Bedford 
is willing to join the new class and build an 18- 
looter in order to compete for the prize again 
next season. Commodore Childs wants a Q 
boat and is advocating it as strongly as he can. 
W A. Barstow and Hendon Chubb are in favor 
of 18-footers. W. A. Brown, E. F. Lucken- 
back, and one or two others have not decided 
yet which class they favor. This will be settled 
shortly, and which ever class is adopted will 
have goodly support, so that at least five new 
boats will be racing on the Lower Bay next 
season. 
Eastern V. C. Season. 
The Eastern Y. C. had a very successful sea¬ 
son, and the report of the regatta committee 
shows that many races were sailed, and that 
the contests in many classes were close and in¬ 
teresting. Dorello was the biggest winner, 
taking nine first prizes. Avenger was next with 
six. 
The Puritan cup, awarded for the year to the 
yacht of the Eastern Y. C. making the best 
corrected time over the course sailed by the 
larger yachts, w'as won by Onda II. The cor¬ 
rected times for this trophy, which on one day 
of the race could not be given out because 
some of the yachts had not been measured, are 
as follows: 
Onda II., 3.17.13: Dorello, 3.27.24; Gloriana, 
3.40.06; Doris, 336.21; Avenger, 3.40.09; Taor¬ 
mina, 2.46.40; Venona, 3.50.03; Humma, 3.51.54; 
Dervish, 3.53.23. 
The annual cruise of the club, which started 
from Marblehead July 4, and ended at Bar 
Harbor July 11, brought together the same yachts 
as took part in the annual regatta. Four special 
cups were offered during the cruise, and these 
were Vice-Commodore F. Lewis Clark’s cup, 
for sloop or yawl making the fastest total cor¬ 
rected time on all runs, won by Avenger; 
Charles H. Flavden cup, for schooners, same 
conditions as the above, won by Taormina; 
Rear-Commodore Robert W. Emmons’ cup, 
for schooner making fastest corrected time on 
the Marblehead to Isles of Shoals run, won by 
Taormina; Capt. R. T. Paine 2d’s cup, for 
sloops and yawls, on the same run, won by 
Avenger. 
Club prizes for each day’s run were awarded 
as follows: Marblehead to Isles of Shoals, 
Vigilant, Taormina and Venona, Avenger and 
Gloriana. Dorello and Essex. 
Second day’s run, Isles of Shoals to Peak’s 
Island; Emerald, Verona and Loyal, Avenger 
and Gloriana, Dorello and Heron. 
Third day’s run. Peaks Island to Linekin 
Bay, Vigilant, Taormina and Dervish, Avenger 
and Humma, Dorello. 
Fourth day’s run, Linekin Bay to Seal Har¬ 
bor, Taormina and Dervish, Avenger and Doris, 
Dorello. 
Seventh day's run, Mark Island to Swan’s 
Island, Taormina and Dervish, Avenger and 
Humma, Dorello. 
Eighth day’s run, Swan’s Island to Bar Har¬ 
bor, Vigilant, Dervish and Taormina, Avenger 
and Doris, Dorello. 
The summary of prize-winners for the 1908 
season is as follows: 
Achilles .. 
Avenger . 
Dervish .. 
Dorello . 
Doris . 
Eleanor . 
Ellen . 
Emerald . 
Essex .. 
Gloriana . 
Gringo . 
Heron . 
Humma . 
Eittle Rhody II 
Eoyal . 
Manchester . 
Onda II. 
Sintram . 
Spokane II. ... 
Taormina . 
Venona . 
Vigilant . 
First 
prize. 
. 1 
. 6 
. 1 
. 9 
1 
2 
i 
1 
1 
1 
1 
4 
9 
3 
Second Third Special 
prize, prize, prize. 
3 
1 
3 
'i 
'i 
9 
1 
3 
9 
1 
1 
1 
’i 
1 
1 
1 
1 
1 
9 
Totals 
37 
14 
1 5 
New Home for Brooklyn Club. 
Some members of the Brooklyn Y. C. have 
recently purchased a part of the West Estate, 
which is at Twenty-second and Cropsey avenues, 
bath Beach, and which has a water front¬ 
age, and the club is to make arrangements to 
take over this property and build a new club 
house. The West estate was the home of the 
late William West, the minstrel, and is very 
close to the present quarters of the Brooklyn 
Y. C. 
The Brooklyn Y. C. Realty Company, with 
Alfred C. Soper, William C. Towen, David E. 
Austen, Leo S. Herzig and Victor R. Koeller, 
was recently incorporated with the Secretary 
of State at Albany, with capital stock placed at 
$35,000. Some of these directors have recently 
purchased a part of the West estate, and a part 
of that holding is to be used for the new club 
house. The house according to Commodore 
Towen is to be up-to-date in every way and 
have billiard room, bowling alleys, and when 
completed, to be kept open throughout the 
year. It is hoped that the new house will be 
completed b}f the opening of next season. 
A meeting of the members of the Brooklyn 
Y. C. was held last Thursday to take action in 
the matter. 
Sonder Boat for Com. Childs. 
Commodore William H. Childs, of the 
Bensonhurst Y. C., has placed an order with 
Charles D. Mower for a boat to take part in 
the races of the Sonder class. This is the class 
to be built on this side of the Atlantic to meet 
the three German boats next August. The 
m?tch was recently arranged by Henry How¬ 
ard, of the Ea'stern Y. C., and Mr. Howard 
is now trying to interest American yachtsmen 
in the class. Mr. Mower will undoubtedly turn 
out a fast boat, and she will be well handled. 
Commodore Childs will name the new boat 
Miss Brooklyn. 
The Sonder boats cost about $1,600 without 
smls and fittings and furnish lots of good sport. 
Their load waterline length, plus beam, plus 
draft must not exceed 32ft., and they are limbed 
to 550 sq. ft. of canvas. It is thought that 
there will be at least fifteen that will take part 
in the trials which are to be held to select the 
three'to meet the visiting German boats. 
Commodore Leonard Richards Dined. 
Commodore Leonard Richards was enter¬ 
tained at dinner by members of the Atlantic 
Y. C. on Tuesday, Sept. 22. It has been largely 
through the efforts of Commodore Richards 
that the Atlantic Y. C. has been so prosperous 
this season, and those who have the welfare of I 
the club at heart attended this dinner to show I 
their appreciation for what had been done. 
There were nearly a hundred yachtsmen present, 
and among them were: Vice-Commodore J. 
D. Probst, Rear-Commodore E. E. Malcolm, 
Secretary Robert Speir, Treasurer W. A. 
Brown, Charles J. McDermott, Commodore F. 
M. Wilson of the Crescent A. C., Commodore 
W. H. Childs of the Bensonhurst Y. C., Com¬ 
modore C. M. Camp of the Marine and Field 
Club, Fleet Captain Morton F. Smith of the 
Larchmont Y. C, Robert C. Veit, John R. ; 
Brophy, S. E. Vernon, W. A. Barstow, Hendon 
Chubb, C. B. Ludwig, Charles Lembcke, H. E. 
Boucher, F. L. Durland, Barstow S. Weeks, I 
H. A. Bullock, O. G. Jennings, C. A. Morse, 
E. F. Luckenback, H. G. S. Noble. 
A handsome gold stylographic pen enameled 
with the Atlantic and commodore’s colors was 
presented to Commodore Richards. Speeches 
were made by C. M. Camp, F. M. Wilson, W. 
FI. Childs, Barstow S. Weeks, Morton F. Smith, 
Gherardi Davis and tx E. Vernon. 
— 
Work of the Yachting Conference. 
Delegates from many yacht clubs and asso¬ 
ciations will meet at the New York Y. C. next I 
Thursday evening, to consider changes in the I 
measurement racing rules. These delegates I 
have been asked to report before the meeting j 
what changes they are going to suggest, so that j 
all may know what has to be discussed. 
W. Butler Duncan Jr., is the chairman of the J 
conference, and he said recently that many I 
changes have been suggested. One relates to I 
the length measurement. It has been proposed | 
that the load waterline length De taken instead jl 
of the quarter beam length, according to the 1 
present formula. In case this is agreed to, a I 
certain percentage of the length would be taken || 
and any excess over quarter beam length I 
would be a penalty. Another suggestion is to j 
take the mean between the load water length 
and the quarter beam length. 
It is probable that the draft limit will be 
changed, allowing larger boats more draft. I 
Some changes are to be made in the method ij 
of measuring sails. The time allowance scale 
may be changed from 70 per cent, of the theo¬ 
retical allowance- to 60 per cent., but there will ] 
be some opposition to this change. 
It is very probable that committees will be J 
appointed to act on these different suggestions I 
and another meeting of the conference will be I 
called later in the winter to take final action. 
Canadians After Canada Cup. 
The Royal Canadian Y. C. at a meeting held 1 
in Toronto last Tuesday decided to try again to ! 
win the Canada cup, now held by the Rochester 
Y. C. It notified the Rochester club by tele- I 
graph of its action and said that a formal 
challenge was on its way. The Rochester club 
won this cup in 1905 with Irondequoit and suc¬ 
ceeded in defending it with Seneca last year. 
The Rochester men were rather surprised | 
that a challenge has been sent. They had ex- I 
pected that they would be left in possession of 
the cup for at least another year. Commodore | 
Culp, when he heard that a challenge was on 
its way, said that as soon as it was received I 
there would be a meeting of the Board of Di¬ 
rectors to consider the matter. It is probable j 
that the challenge is for a boat of the 27ft. class, I 
as it was last year, and the Canadians will go | 
to Fife and Mylne for the challengers, which | 
will be set no on the other side, then taken apart 1 
and shipped here to be set up again. 
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