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FOREST AND STREAM. 
[Oct. io, 1908. 
Atlantic Coast Conference. 
The delegates to the Atlantic Coast Con¬ 
ference met at the New York Y. C. last Thurs¬ 
day. There were representative^ from the 
Massachusetts Association (twenty-six clubs), 
the Long Island Sound Association (twenty-five 
clubs), the Narragansett Bay Association (six 
clubs), the Yacht Racing Union of the Great 
Lakes (twenty-five clubs), the Atlantic Y. C., 
representing also the Gravesend Bay Association 
(six clubs), the Corinthian Y. C. of Marblehead, 
the Corinthian Y. C. of Philadelphia, the 
Beverly Y. C, Eastern Y. C., Larchmont Y. C. 
and New York Y. C. 
W. Butler Duncan, Jr., was the chairman, and 
Charles Lane Poor the secretary. In sending 
out the call for this meeting, it was suggested 
that those amendments that were to be sub¬ 
mitted by the delegates to the conference should 
be sent to the secretary, and these were printed 
in pamphlet form, filling seven pages. 
To expedite work and let those delegates 
from out-of-town get away as soon as possible, 
afternoon and evening sessions were held, and 
after debating some of the suggested changes, 
the amendments were referred to special com¬ 
mittees, and those committees will report at 
another meeting of the conference to be held 
later. 
Five amendments were submitted relating to 
the rating formula. The present formula is: 
“Length multiplied by square root of sail area, 
divided by 5.5 times cube root of displacement.” 
These amendments were: 
(a) Amend formula by removing the figures 
5.5 from the denominator and writing the 
equivalent (18.2) percentage before the fraction, 
so that the formula shall read: 
• L VS~A 
Rating Measurement = 0.182 ' 
VD 
(b) Amend formula, by removing the figures 
5.5 from the denominator and writing before the 
fraction a percentage (probably 0.155) to be de¬ 
termined by the necessities of the classification. 
(c) Amend formula by removing the figures 
5.5 from the denominator and writing before the 
fraction a percentage so adjusted as to make 
the new boats rate near their waterline length. 
(d) To substitute 5 in place of 5.5 as the con¬ 
stant in the divisor, and to raise the classifica¬ 
tion limits approximately 10 per cent. 
(e) Amend" the wording under the formula by 
striking out the words “the result is the meas¬ 
urement for classification and time allowance,” 
and inserting therefor the words “the result is 
the measurement for classification and time al¬ 
lowance of sloops. Yawls shall be rated at 93 
per cent., and schooners at 90 per cent, of their 
actual measurement as determined from the 
rating formula. 
Length, according to the present rules is: 
“L measured on a line parallel with the middle 
fore-and-aft vertical plane at a distance from 
it equal to one-quarter of the greatest beam 
(B) at the load waterline, and one-tenth of this 
beam above the load waterline; and in case 
there are any notches, jogs, curves or angles, at 
or near the plane of measurement, L shall be 
taken on a fair line bridging such notches, 
curves, jogs or angles.” 
The amendments submitted were: 
(a) Amend by.inserting the words: “The L 
in the formula shall be orie-half the sum of the 
load waterline and the quarter-beam length.” 
' (b) Amend by inserting the words: “The L 
in the formula shall be the load waterline length, 
but if the quarter-beam length shall exceed 93 
per cent, or fall short of 87 per cent, of the 
load waterline, then such excess over 93 per 
cent., or deficit, under 87 per cent, shall be added 
to the load waterline.” 
(c) Amend by inserting the words: “The L 
in the formula shall be the load waterline 
length.” 
QUARTER-BEAM DEFINITION. 
The vertical height at which the quarter-beam 
is to be taken to be a percentage of the load 
waterline instead of one-tenth of the waterline 
beam. 
SAIL AREA. 
The paragraph relating to the measurement 
of mainsail and topsail is to be stricken out, and 
in its place it is proposed to add: 
“D. The diagonal measured from the end of 
the boom when the mainsail is fully hoisted, to 
the upper point of measurement of H.” 
“T. The length of the leach of the working 
topsail or jib-header.” 
“The area of the mainsail in sloops, schooners 
and yawls, and of the mizzen in three-masted 
schooners and in yawls shall be obtained from 
the above measurements by multiplying B by 
H, and G by D, adding the two products to¬ 
gether and dividing the result by 2. 
“Formula: 
B X H -f GX D 
2 
“The area of the working topsail, or jib- 
header, shall be calculated from the above meas¬ 
urements by assuming the three sides of the 
topsail to be G, P - H, and T. In pole-masted 
vessels carrying sprit topsails, the length from 
the highest point of the sprit to the upper point 
of measurement of H shall be used instead of 
P - H in computing the area of the topsail.” 
(b) Amend so as to make it obligatory to cal¬ 
culate sail area exclusively from measurements 
taken from spars or sails when set. 
HEAD SAILS. 
A slight change was proposed in the rule re¬ 
lating to length of spinnaker boom allowed. 
The rule until now has read: “In yachts of 3ft. 
rating and under the spinnaker boom may be 
40 per cent, of the length of the base line, etc.” 
The amendment would change this to yachts 
of 27ft. and under. 
CLUB TOPSAILS. 
An amendment to the rule relating to club 
topsails would make the rule read: “The area 
of the club topsail shall be found frojn the 
measured lengths of the three sides.” The word 
“club” was omitted in the original rules. 
Another amendment submitted was: “The 
club topsails of-schooners shall not exceed the 
sum of the areas of the fore and main working 
topsails or jib-headers.” 
LIMITS AND PENALTIES. 
It was proposed to strike out the whole sec¬ 
tion in the old rules relating to limits and pen¬ 
alties and substitute new clauses. The old rule 
said: “The limit of draft of yachts shall be in 
feet: 0.15 times the L plus 2.50 and any excess 
of draft, exclusive of centerboard, as per above 
formula, shall be multiplied by 3 and added to 
the rating measurement; this penalty, however, 
shall not apply to yachts launched or keel laid 
prior to Jan. 1, 1905.” The proposed changes 
were: 
DRAFT LIMIT. 
“(a) The limit of draft of yachts .shall be in 
feet: 
0.16 X L. W. L. -f- 1.75, 
and any excess of draft, exclusive of center- 
board, as per above formula, shall be multi¬ 
plied by 3 and added to the rating measure¬ 
ment.” 
“(b) The limit of draft of yachts shall be in 
feet: ' 
L + 2.5 B + 12 
9 
where L is the quarter-beam length and B is 
the waterline breadth. Any excess of draft, 
exclusive of centerboard, as per above formula, 
shall be multiplied by 3 and added to the 
rating.” 
LIMIT OF SAIL AREA. 
Any excess of the square root of sail area 
over 125 per cent, of L. W. L. shall be added to 
the rating measurement. 
The former limit was 135 per cent. 
LIMIT OF DISPLACEMENT. 
The cube root of D as used in the rating 
formula shall not exceed 
0.185 X L. W. L. -f- 0.44 
The displacement of any yacht may exceed this 
limit, but such excess shall not be used in ob¬ 
taining the rating. 
QUARTER-BEAM LIMIT. 
The quarter-beam shall be limited to 90 per 
cent, of the L. W. L. In case the quarter-beam 
exceeds this limit, such excess shall be added 
to the rating. 
LIMIT OF FREEBOARD. 
The minimum freeboard, in feet, measured 
from the top of the plank sheer at its lowest 
point to the surface of the water, shall be given 
by the formula 
L 
-0.6 
20 
where L is the quarter beam length. 
The limits and penalties on draft, sail area, 
displacement, quarter-beam and freeboard, shall 
not apply to yachts launched prior to Jan. 1, 1909. 
The rule relating to measurement certificate 
it was proposed to change to read: “The meas¬ 
urer or his assistants shall personally measure 
the spars, the load waterline and the quarter- 
beam length.” 
It was proposed to change the classification 
rule by inserting this paragraph: “Each yacht 
launched after Jan. 1, 1909, except those in 
Classes A and P, shall rate at the highest limit 
of her class when racing in her regular class.” 
A second amendment proposed that the date be 
1908 instead of 1909. It was proposed to change 
the classification of sloops and yawls, so as to 
make the limits of classes over 40ft., the same 
as those of schooners. 
RESTRICTIONS RACING TRIM. 
(a) Amend section headed sails, so that the 
sentence reads: “A sloop over 27ft. rating 
measurement may carry a club topsail.” 
(b) Amend by changing to read: “A sloop 
over iSft. rating measurement may carry a club 
topsail.” 
In the rule relating to boats, it is proposed 
that Classes E, D and Ee, of schooners, and K 
of sloops and yawls carry boat 10ft. in length. 
Class L is stricken out. 
It was proposed to amend the paragraph re¬ 
lating to cruising trim headed boats, to read: 
(a) Each yacht of Classes A and B of 
schooners and F and G of sloops and yawls 
shall carry a serviceable non-collapsible boat 
not less than fourteen (14) feet in length; each 
yacht of Classes C and D of schooners and H 
and J of sloops and yawls one such boat not 
less than twelve (12) feet in length. Each other 
schooner and each sloop and yawl of Classes 
K and L one such boat not less than ten (10) 
feet in length; each sloop or yawl under 40ft. 
rating shall carry or tow one such boat not 
less than eight (8) feet in length. 
(b) To change (a), so that yachts of Classes 
N and P and under shall not be compelled to 
carry or tow boats. 
(c) To change (a), so that yachts of 33ft. and 
under may carry collapsible or sectional boats. 
SCANTLING RESTRICTIONS. 
To adopt scantling restrictions for yachts of 
33ft. rating and under, similar to those now in 
use by the Yacht Racing Association of Massa¬ 
chusetts. 
CABIN-HOUSE RESTRICTIONS. 
To adopt cabin-house restrictions for yachts 
of 27ft. rating and under, similar to those now 
in use by the Yacht Racing Association of 
Massachusetts. 
TIME ALLOWANCE TABLES. 
(a) To change the formula to read: 
2160 
—I— + 183.63 
VR 
This reduces the allowance to 60 per cent, of 
the so-called “full” allowance. 
(b) To reduce the allowance by an amount 
fto be determined) which shall give the large 
boats a decided advantage. 
PROTESTS. 
Amend Section 2, so that measurer need re- 
