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FOREST AND STREAM 
[Dec. 19, 190S. 
Secretary-Manager Elmer E. Shaner writes us as fol¬ 
lows: “It affords me pleasure to advise that at the annual 
meeting of the stockholders of the Interstate Association, 
held in New York city, on the 4th inst., a vote of thanks 
was tendered the sportsmen’s journals, honorary mem¬ 
bers, for the assistance they have given the Association 
in keeping alive the interest so necessary for its con¬ 
tinued prosperity, and for publishing matters of general 
and particular interest to its members.” 
The communication from our esteemed, practical cor¬ 
respondent, “48 Grains,” published in our trap columns 
this week, asks some pertinent questions. We perfectly 
agree with him that, to permit shooters to enter for tar¬ 
gets only, cheapens the handicaps seriously. While such 
a concession may consume a few thousand more targets 
and cartridges, such gain is more than counterbalanced 
by the cheapness and loss of prestige consequent to such 
tall grass standards. Instead of being the greatest event 
with the highest standards of competition known to 
exist, it differs now from a cross-roads shoot in the 
matter of size, with the exception, however, that many 
cross-road managements will not permit a shooter to 
disport himself for targets only in the main events. 
Bernard Waters. 
Bergen Beach Gun Club. 
The monthly shoot for December of the Bergen Beach, 
L. I., Gun Club took place on the 8 th inst. The weather 
was beautiful and clear, with quite a strong west wind 
blowing from left to right across the traps. The wind 
moderated somewhat about 3 P. M„ at which time the 
veteran Piercy arrived from Jersey City, he stating that 
his tardiness was owing to not making close connection 
wdth the shuttle car that connects Bergen Beach with 
the car barn at Westminster Park. Then he proceeded 
to warm four pretty fair amateurs in the proper use of 
the scatter gun by a 91 out of 100, which same score, by 
the way, has selden been exceeded on our grounds. 
We used only one set of expert traps, Sergeant system, 
but this club set accounted for only 50 less than 5000 
targets for, the short time, and if daylight lasted, prob¬ 
ably another couple of thousand could have been nego¬ 
tiated. 
Twenty-six amateurs and four manufacturers’ repre¬ 
sentatives participated. J. A. R. came late, but only 
four got away from him out of 65 shot at. Doc Elliott, 
his son, shows improvement every time he drops the 
stock of his pump, same as pater. Mr. Bostwick aver¬ 
aged about 88 per cent, up to the 100-bird special. Simons- 
son, the runner up of the Cosmopolitan championship, 
shot a new one, which accounts for his mediocre score. 
You may wager he will use the old chuck-a-luck at 
Travers Island next week. Dr. Moeller, despite his 
years, hammered them out, and he comes quite a ways 
to be with the boys. The pony representatives of the 
W. R. A. and U. M. C. Co., divided honors. They talk 
business a sight better than they shoot. John Martin 
hasn t struck his gait as yet. Mr. Medler suavely con¬ 
tinues to increase his average of breaks. Harry Bergen 
had very little time to shoot, as he attended to the office 
end of the job. John Hendrickson, as usual, was well 
to the fore, and Schorty shot four guns and four 
powders. Mr. Henderson came from the Bronx with 
Mr. Booth. These are cracks of the Melrose boys, and 
the Buskies, too. Geo. Kelly rung in a 25 straight. 
Fred Stone and Geo. Crater accounetd for seven scores 
apiece. Fred held fairly true. George simply couldn’t 
find them until his final 23; but Fred just topped him 
one in that event. Mr. L. P. Stone, Fred’s father, 
showed he was a chip of the young block. Dave Lahey 
shot his new beautiful single barrel, and with a little 
practice will keep them all guessing. Mr. Homan, from 
Freeport, L. I., will do better after a few more visits. 
Garry Remsen lost only 10 out of 80, and Capt. Dreyer 
hit most of them in the ecjuator. Mr. Haney made a 
straight in one event, and did well in the others. Harry 
Montanus used anybody’s gun and his scores were poor, 
and Ryder and Voorhees, of the old guard, just jogged 
along. We all missed good-natured Bill Hopkins, but 
hope to find him on deck soon. 
Our fifth annual New Year’s Day contest will begin 
at 9:30 A. M., Friday, Jan. 1, 1909, and President Bergen 
is getting the three sets of expert traps in good working 
order for that day. Merchandise prizes, as usual, in three 
classes, distance handicap, according to ability and scores 
of members the past year. 
Messrs. Frank Coleman and H. P. Fessenden were the 
referees. 
Events: 
Targets: 
A C Bostwick... 
A Schoverling... 
Dr P Moeller... 
H W Dreyer. 11 9 
C 
T 
C 
II 
Brown . 4 
Martin . 
S Medler... 
D Bergen.. 
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 
15 15 15 15 15 15 15 
13 14 14 10 14 14 11 
8 12 12 9 13 11 12 
10 9 11 9 
8 12 13 14 
11 10 
9 
12 
8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 
15 15 15 15 25 25 25 25 
15 13 12 .. 21 .. .. 
15 11 .. .. 22 .. 
13 10 .. .. 17 .. 
12 13 11 9 .. 19 .. 
13 11 
9 10 14 12 13 12 12 .. 
99 
10 10 
9 13 9 12 11 12 10 .. 
.. 19 22 18 .. 
13 .. 
10 9. 
3 4. 
H Schorty... 
A Henderson. 
M Booth. 
IC Kelly. 
F 
J 
H 
G 
R 
PI IT Ryder 
Wm Simons 
Homan .... 
F A Stone. 
G Crater 
10 
Stone. g 
14 
14 
11 
13 
24 
12 
13 
13 
12 
22 
18 21 .. 
10 
11 
10 
13 
19 
21 18 19 
12 
11 
10 
10 
20 
.. 21 23 
11 
12 
11 
18 
25 .. .. 
13 
10 
11 
15 
20 .. .. 
12 
13 
9 
21 
19 .. .. 
15 
11 
9 
21 
8 
12 
10 
14 
20 13 .. 
11 
8 
12 
ii 
12 
22 
24 .. .. 
12 
7 
9 
11 
10 
17 
23 .. .. 
S 
6 
10 
G Remsen . 
H Montanus. 
21 .. 23 .. 
14 
F Hodgman. 
19 
D T Leary. 
21 20 .. .. 
L T Haney. 
19 22 18 .. 
Dr Elliott .*. 
if; ii 
JAR Elliott. 
23 24 !! !1 
J Voorhees . 
17 16 .. .. 
G II Piercy.10 .. 22 
Special event, 100 targets: 
Bostwick ...j. 
20 
20 
22 
20—82 
Simonson . 
18 
20 
20 
18—76 
Piercy . 
‘’S 
23 
23 
99 qi 
Hodgman . 
19 
22 
22 
19—82 
Hendrickson . 
19 
22 
25 
20—86 
Dec. 12.—Scores 
made at 
the club shoot to-day 
were 
under unpleasant 
weather 
conditions. 
the 
sky 
being 
heavily overcast. 
Events: 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 7 
Targets: 
25 
25 
25 
25 
25 
25 25 
G Kelly . 
19 
19 
24 
R Morgan . 
36 
15 
19 
is 
17 .. 
J Voorhees . 
17 
16 
20 
17 
17 .. 
H W Dreyer. 
20 
18 
19 
21 
18 .. 
W Hopkins . 
.... 17 
18 
19 
14 
W PI Ryder. 
21 
16 
21 
H D Bergen. 
16 
20 
J Shevlin . 
17 
15 
12 
T Slavin.. 
19 
S Griffith . 
15 
15 
16 16 
T Scales . 
16 
IS 
16 
C Duckworth . 
IS 
18 
16 16 
V Suvdam . 
IS 
91 19 
Manhatta. 
New York Athletic Club. 
Travers Island, N. Y., Dec. 12.— A record crowd of 
shooters turned out to-day, the regulars being joined by 
other shooters with championship bees in their bonnets, 
notably Geo. Lyon, Geo. Piercy and Fred. Moffett, a 
total of twenty-six guns. 
The wind blew hard and gusty, and made the shoot¬ 
ing very difficult for most of us, but Fred Schauffler 
was a notable exception; he broke 134 out of 150 shot 
at, and was easily high gun for the day. Six events 
were run off, as follows: 
First event, practice: Schauffler high gun. 
Second event, December cup: Leg won by Owen on 
shoot-off with Grinnell. 
.Third eyent, Sauer gun: Leg won by Schauffler after 
tie with Billings and Lyon. 
Fourth event, Stevens gun: Tie for leg between Greiff 
and Kuchler. Shoot-off won by Kuchler, beating Greiff 
by one target. 
Fifth event, trophy shoot: Won by Robinson, beating 
Lyon on shoot-off, assisted by 5 targets. 
Sixth event, trophy shoot: Won by De Wolf after 
shoot-off with Bostwick. Scores (3) 21 to (0) 20 
Events: 
O C Grinnell. 
W T Elias. 
F A Hodgman.... 
F C Bostwick. 
J Morrison . 
ID Cobden . 
G Piercy . 
F Schauffler . 
P W Stewart. 
C W Billings. 
G L Lyon. 
R M Owen. 
G F Pelham. 
F Moffett.. 
M V Lenane. 
F Hall. 
McCahill . 
P Robinson . 
IT Stevens . 
R J Held . 
G W Kuchler. 
J J O’Donohue_ 
C L Edey.. 
C M Thomson.... 
Alley . 
G E Greiff. 
Dr De Wolf. 
i 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
19 
1 25 
1 22 
1 24 
1 21 
1 21 
20 
2 20 
2 22 
2 22 
2 20 
2 23 
is 
.. . . 
1 23 
1 20 
1 21 
1 18 
0 22 
0 17 
0 19 
0 19 
0 24 
1 17 
1 16 
1 19 
1 16 
1 16 
i9 
0 18 
0 19 
0 19 
0 18 
0 20 
0 22 
0 20 
0 17 
0 23 
0 21 
24 
1 24 
1 24 
0 22 
0 20 
2 22 
19 
0 18 
0 18 
0 19 
0 23 
0 15 
18 
2 19 
2 24 
2 21 
2 22 
2 21 
17 
0 22 
0 24 
0 19 
0 23 
0 13 
17 
4 25 
3 22 
3 24 
3 22 
3 20 
22 
1 18 
1 19 
1 22 
1 21 
1 18 
20 
0 20 
0 21 
0 23 
0 24 
0 21 
14 
3 19 
3 21 
3 13 
3 23 
3 16 
20 
0 21 
0 22 
0 21 
0 20 
0 20 
IS 
5 20 
5 20 
5 23 
5 22 
5 22 
19 
5 20 
5 20 
5 27 
5 23 
4 21 
21 
0 20 
0 21 
0 22 
19 
2 16 
2 21 
2 22 
2 21 
2 21 
. . 
3 22 
3 22 
3 25 
2 20 
2 18 
4 19 
4 17 
4 22 
4 22 
4 22 
. . 
5 11 
5 12 
5 12 
. . 
3 18 
3 18 
3 21 
3 18 
3 IS 
0 16 
0 12 
* * 
. . . . 
4 25 
4 25 
4 20 
4 22 
4 24 
G. F. P. 
Manhasset Bay Yacht Club. 
-TORT WASHINGTON, 
G C Meyer. 15 
E A Sierck.15 
J E Meyer. 14 
W A Williams... 9 
J W Alker. 9 
B. H. T. 
"t;™ were**unfavorable. The Iky'* „„dS'yTlo'Sd’y 
"« d AfcL , „TVf=rge^ °' * he <” 
B H T 
H L Hoyt, Jr... 22 3 ' 25 
J R Hoyt. 19 6 25 
B G Loomis. 19 3 22 
E D Lentilhon.. 16 4 20 
B Longnecker .. 17 3 20 
C M Gould.12 7 19 
19 
18 
18 
14 
13 
The shoot-off was won by H L Hoyt, Tr., who also 
won the leg on the Sauer gun. 
Monthly cup, 50 targets: 
B FT T 
G C Meyer. 35 8 43 
J E Meyer. 35 8 13 
IT L Hoyt, Jr... ‘.9 12 41 
E A Sierck. 34 6 40 
t B - H. T. 
J W Alker. 31 8 39 
B G Loomis. 33 6 39 
W A Williams... 26 10 36 
C M Gould. 20 14 34 
The shoot-off is to be decided next week 
r „r ee P?, take ’ 10 targets, won by J. W. Alker. 
J W Alker . 9 t *p Mpver r 
*p tv T — .a 1 C. ivieyer. 5 
E D Lentilhon. 9 
B Longnecker . 7 
Shoot-off, 10 targets- 
J W Alker. f . 9 
J R Hoyt. 5 
C Cowl . 2 
E D Lentilhon. 7 
Boston and Vicinity. 
Doc Welling, of Mechanicsville, N. Y., happened in 
town, and naturally enough drifted to Wellington on 
Wednesday, along with regulars. 
Henry Powers, the well-known professional, has de¬ 
cided to abandon the ranks of the experts, and again toe 
the firing line as an amateur. He is a member of many 
clubs in this vicinity, and this season donated to the 
Paleface Association a beautiful cut-glass lemonade set, 
the series of shoots for which is about to conclude. 
Dan Dewey has scored 86 geese so far at his gunning 
camp on the South Shore. 
Dr. L. A. Newton, of Greenfield, Mass., called on his 
Boston friends last week. Since his previous visit he 
has been West concerning valuable interests in Cali¬ 
fornia and Nevada. 
Mr. J. N. Damon has donated three splendid useful 
prizes for the winning team at Watertown, Mass., Dec. 19. 
Percy Carver had good success on a recent short trip, 
bringing home three brant and a pair of black duck. 
Tne changed conditions of 1909 official competition has 
furnished a live topic for discussion since Forest and 
Stream s full report of the Interstate meeting reached 
town. The city of Buffalo has our best wishes for a 
successful Eastern Handicap. 
Programmes are out for an all-day shoot on the Water- 
town Gun Club grounds, Saturday, Dec. 19, under the 
management of H. C. Kirkwood. Watertown has lately 
suffered through lack of interest, and a meeting held 
last week resulted in this combined effort on the part 
of Boston shooters with the idea of resucitating one of 
the Hub’s former wideawake trapshooting clubs. The 
programme of 150 targets includes contests for the 
Hunter, Paleface, and Boyle trophies, besides a three- 
man team match for special prizes. 
Mr. E. P. Wilkin, of the U. M. C.-Remington Com¬ 
panies, made a short stay last week and wore the smile 
that won’t come off when stating he would spend the 
holidays at his Utica home. 
That was a big attendance at Wellington on ladies’ 
afternoon, both as regards shooters and their friends, in 
whose honor the programme was made up. It proved 
about the nicest, most enjoyable shoot that has taken 
place on the grounds, and everybody was pleased to see 
Mrs. Bob Smith take the cut-glass dish that her selected 
team won by consistent shooting. Half a dqzen couples 
enjoyed dinner together after the shoot, sociably com¬ 
pleting a stellar event in the Paleface calendar. 
. Boston dailies have been kind to the game for some 
time now, and their reports of frequent trapshoots are 
models in comparison to ordinary newspaper work. The 
Sunday Post of Dec. 6 contained a readable and well 
illustrated article on the Paleface organization, and the 
Glove of Thursday had pictures of the winner of high 
average, a prominent visitor, and the group of ladies 
who were present. 
Middlesex members talk of a special Christmas shoot on 
their grounds at East Lexington. Bobby Burnes, Bob 
Smith and F. A. Freeman are the prime movers in this 
club. 
Buffalo Smith looks to be the one certain Boston rep¬ 
resentative at the New York Athletic Championship. 
Business prevents a number of other shooters following 
their personal wishes in the matter. 
Harvard went down before the Paleface aggregation on 
ay ' ast > hardly doing themselves justice on the 
Wellington grounds. Scores were 209 to 176, with Charles 
high on the Paleface side with 45 out of 50, and Hauth- 
away doing the same for Harvard with 40. J. H. Daggett 
had a special race with Buffalo Smith, resulting: Dag¬ 
gett 21 and Smith 18. Low score won the money this 
time, per the unusual conditions. 
Dr. Gleason phoned on Wednesday at 1 o’clock that 
he would sure attend the ladies’ shoot. A friend in 
hearing, immediately said he would take an even bet 
that the Doctor wouldn’t be there, and he wasn’t. 
Penrose Gun Club. 
Philadelphia, Dec. 12.-— Chief Bender, from the back 
mark, 30yds., was the only one who killed 10 straight, in 
the handicap at 10 birds, $5 entrance, to-day. Aiman, 
Hess and Morris scored 9, the latter having the hard 
luck to lose his last bird dead out. At the special event 
to be held on Thursday of this week, Hess and Killian 
will shoot their match at 25 birds, $25 a side. Scores: 
Felix, 30 ... 
Murphy, 30 . 
Bender, 30 . 
Redman, 28 . 
Aiman, 29 . 
Hess, 30 . 
Jones, 29 . 
Grace, 29 . 
Tomlin, 27 . 
Lewis, 28 .. 
Morris, 30 . 
Worthington, Jr, 30. 
Worthington, Sr., 30 
Paul, 29 . 
Franks, 28 . 
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Miss-and-out, $2: 
Morris, 30 .222—3 
Hess, 30 .222—3 
Bender, 30.220—2 
Murphy, 30 .220—2 
Felix, 30 ...220—2 
Aiman. 30 .220—2 
Cummings, 30.20 —1 
Grace, 30 .20 —1 
Worthington, Jr, 30.20 —1 
Redman, 28 .....0 —0 
-—"^Belmont Gun Club. 
ISarberth, Pa., Dec. 12.—There were ten contestants 
m the live-bird shoot, held here to-day. The conditions 
were 10 birds, $5 entrance, handicap, two mPneys. A 
strong wind prevailed. Scores: 
J Emerson_2202202122—8 Smith ...1020*22022_6 
Babb .222*202022—7 Myer .!.221220210_7 
Kelley .2211202120—8 Tackson .!2120021022—7 
G Emerson ..2212212*22— 9 Hatch .1022102202_7 
Jones ....2002120221—7 Jordan _.’2202021022—7 
