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FOREST AND STREAM 
[Feb. 5, 1910. 
LUGER. AUTOMATIC CARBINE 
$30.00 
Former Price 
$50.00 
Cartridges 
$2.50 per 100 
Calibre .301 or 7.65 mm. Firing Rapidity 116 shots per minute. 
Range for Accurate Shooting 500 yards. Length Barrel 11^ inches, 
over all 29 inches. Weight of Carbine 4 lbs. 1 oz. Detachable 
Stock—same construction as Luger Pistols. 
We bought entire stock ; while they last, will sell at $30.00 
SCHOVERLING, DALY & GALES 
S02-304 Broadway, ... New York 
^Important as 
ithe Gun Itself 
is "3 in One” for oiling all] 
the delicate parts. Makes | 
■trigger, lock, every action part work! 
I promptly, properly. Never hardens ’ 
lor gums, contains no acid. L 
1 3 in One” removes the residue of 
■ burnt powder. Indispensible withA 
I smokeless powder. Positively prevents*, 
■ barrel fromrusting insideorout. Cleans 
land polishes the stock. 
|T7sample bottle sent on reqnest. 
|A ICC 3 = IN=ONE OIL CO., 
112 New Street New York City 
Moose Hunting and Salmon Fishing, 
and other sketches of sport. Being' the record of per¬ 
sonal experiences of hunting game in Canada. By T. R. 
Patillo. 300 pages. Price, $2.00. 
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A complete, illustrated work on the building of motor 
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“Forest and Stream." 
Used by MR. CHAS. G. SPENCER During 
1907 1908 
Broke 94.9$ of 16,220 Targets 
Broke 96 . 77 $ of 11,175 Target* 
These unequalled records denote the greatest regularity of Shotgun powder. 
The best guide for the future should be the records of the past. 
Insist on having all your shells loaded with stability guaranteed Dead Shot. 
Manufactured by 
AMERICAN POWDER 
Chicago, Ill. Boston, Mass. 
MILLS 
St. Louis, Mo. 
DEAD SHOT 
SMOKELESS 
item than appears on the face of it; it spells clean-cut, 
decisive work, and dead birds. 
“W.” says he has never shot a 20-gauge on ducks, and 
is unable to find out what this “devilish fascination is 
for a 20-gauge gun.” The latter statement proves the 
former. If he could have our local experience, I feel 
sure the 20 -bore gun would have made another warm 
convert, for the tone of his letter is that of one in 
search of the light in this matter. 
I would like to take occasion here to emphasize a few 
points about the 20 -bore gun for those contemplating 
trying one. First, the gun must be full-choke. Special 
attention must be paid to adjusting its stock dimen¬ 
sions to the needs of the individual who is to use it— 
this to even greater degree than with a 12. The gun is 
so handy that one is apt to throw it around promiscu¬ 
ously if it does not “fit” exactly. Further, special at¬ 
tention to loads is needed; a good load would be picked 
out by careful trial, and the shot charges should be kept 
down religiously. Do not be discouraged if every 12 
you shoot against puts more shot into a 30in. circle than 
your 20. Just run over your ducks and compare those 
with the 12-bore man’s birds. The result may surprise 
you. A few years ago there was a great run on a dense 
powder among local duck hunters, and it is still in 
the front rank of popularity. Ordinary shots did much 
cleaner and better work with it than with bulk powders, 
and yet they found great diversity in the patterns. The 
answer is: Velocity. Men usually miss ducks by shoot¬ 
ing behind them, which accounted for part of the result, 
and the great speed imparted to the shot by that well- 
known dense powder gave the penetration that makes 
for clean killing at long range. Much the same is true 
of the 16 and 20 bore guns. 
An interesting experiment that I have dubbed the “tin- 
can chronograph” is tried as follows: Set a five-gallon 
coal oil can up at 40 or 50yds., where you can get within 
10 yds. and be screened by a house corner from the line 
of fire. Have a friend fire at it with a 12, and then 
with a 20 , with the load I suggest, and take notice 
what you hear. The 20 will make the can ring like a 
bell with one crack; the 12 will spatter noticeably. It 
will give new ideas on the subject of ballistics, and is 
valuable for comparison. 
Edwin L. Hf.dderly. 
Safety and Chokes. 
Mt. Jackson, Va., Jan. 19 .—Editor Forest and Stream: 
As my hunting is confined chiefly to quail shooting, I 
naturally take an interest in your articles pertaining to 
the shotgun. Personally, I shoot a 28in. hammerless 
double-barrel, with right barrel cylinder and left full 
choked. With a gun bored in this way a bird is within 
killing range anywhere between 10 and 40yds. Of course, 
in brush shooting, the hunter is somewhat handicapped 
by the choke barrel, but this can be largely overcome 
by the use of any of the short range shells now on the 
market. 
There is one thing in regard to shotguns that I see 
very little mention of in the sporting magazines, and 
that is their safety mechanism. We all know that any 
hammerless gun is liable to “jar off” on closing it after 
loading, or on firing one barrel, unless this is prevented 
by a separate device for blocking each hammer at all 
times, except when the trigger is pulled. There is only 
one American-made gun with which I am familiar that 
has this device. 
I am not very familiar with foreign-made guns, but I 
know that in at least one of them the “block safety 
lock” is used. Some of our gun-makers say that the 
use of the “block safety lock” in their particular guns 
is not necessary, as their guns never “jar off,” but an 
unpleasant personal experience with some of these same 
“non-jar-off” guns has convinced me otherwise. • 
While this accident may not happen very often with 
any one individual, the fact that it happens at all is 
sufficient reason why measures should be taken to pre¬ 
vent it. J. W. Koontz, M.D. 
Keystone Yacht Club. 
Tacony, Pa., Jan. 29.- —There was a good attendance. 
Fourteen took part in the event at 25 targets, twelve in 
the event at 10 birds. Sidebottom was first at targets, 
while Rutherford and Camerson were a tie in the bird 
event. Scores: 
Twenty-five target event, class shooting: 
Baker . 12 
Sidebottom . 21 
Wilson . 19 
Camerson . 17 
Bierie . 15 
Evis .. 15 
Frick . 15 
C Haug . 12 
McMilliken . H 
Croll . ii 
Hafer . 9 
W Haug . 8 
Evis . 5 
Rutherford . 5 
Ten-bird event, handicap: 
Rutherf’d, 27.2222222222—o 
Camerson, 27. .2222222222—10 
Sidebot’m, 28..2222202222— 9 
Frick, 27.0222222222— 9 
Bierie, 27.0220222222— 8 
Baker, 28 ....2222200222—8 
Croll, 27 . 0222022222— 8 
McMilliken,28.0222202222— 8 
Evis, 27 .1010102222— 7 
Henry, 28 _0002222222— 7 
"'ilson, 28. 002220022 — 5 
Hafer, 28 _ 2220022000— 5 
Z ..» 3 Eagle Gun Club. 
Manoa, Pa. Jam 22.—The scores were commonplace at 
the shoot oi the Eagle Gun Club to-day. In the 10-bird 
event Redman and Staley tied on 9, while 2 was enough 
scored to win in the miss-and-out, eight entrants 
Ten bird event, handicap: 
Redman, 29.. 
2202122222—9 
Staley, 30. 
1222122022—9 
Kirk, 30. 
1021022222—8 
Aiman, 30 .. 
0202211202—8 
Muller, 30 ... 
2220222002—7 
Miss-and-out 
event: 
F Paulson ... 
. 21—2 
Muller . 
. 20—1 
Redman . 
. 0 — 0 
Aiman . 
. 10—1 
F Paulson, 29.0220222220—6 
Pratt, 30 .1202202022—7 
Foot, 28 . 2011000210—5 
Haney, 28 ....1211022200—7 
Doc, 28 . 2020002022—5 
Staley . 10—1 
Kirk .20—1 
Doc . 10—1 
Harry .10—1 
