May 28, 1910.] 
FOREST AND STREAM. 
8 Gi 
Trout Weights. 
East Orange, N. J., May 14.— Editor Forest 
and Stream: If the following discussion, which 
has arisen between two or three anglers who 
have caught trout ( Salmo fontinalis ) that are 
in size somewhat above the average, is of any 
interest to other anglers, I wish you would call 
for their opinion through your columns. Last 
year I caught a trout measuring 2ij4 inches 
and had it weighed about six hours after it 
was out of the water, so I am sure of its weight. 
I have asked two or three of my friends who 
fish in Maine where this trout was caught, what 
they thought it weighed, telling them the length 
only. 
Their guesses were so wide apart that it 
creates a feeling in my mind that either my 
scales were wrong or else they are poor guessers. 
Now what should a trout of this length nor¬ 
mally weigh? E. F. Kent. 
[The old formulas for estimating weight when 
length is known give the weight of a normal 
2i34-inch brook trout as 4^2 pounds. Deduct¬ 
ing from this the average loss in weight for six 
hours after death of a trout of that size, about 
3J4 ounces, gives the weight of an average brook 
trout of the ‘length named at 4 pounds, \ 1 / 
ounces. Maine brook trout frequently run very 
heavy/ and Mr. Kent’s fish probably weighed 
more than the average.— Editor.] 
Orange Rod Club. 
The Orange Rod Club, of Orange, N. J., has 
arranged to hold contests monthly. The first 
one of these was held on May 14; other dates 
follow: June 11, July 9, July 30, Aug. 20 and 
Sept. 10. The contests will be called at 2130 
p. m. sharp, the events to be accuracy fly, accu¬ 
racy bait, distance fly and distance bait. Con¬ 
testants absent on regular club day will be per¬ 
mitted to cast off back scores on next regular 
day. 
Orange, N. J., May 21. — Editor Forest and 
Stream: Thunder storms and variable winds 
helped to keep down both attendance and scores 
at the first club contest of the Orange Rod Club, 
the showing made by club members, all being 
novices at the game, excepting the writer', 
everything considered was not only gratifying 
but good. 
Several members of the Newark club attended, 
their good fellowship being much appreciated. 
The scores: 
,—Accuracy— N ,—Distance—^ 
Bait. Fly. Bait. Fly. 
Mapes . 91.8 99 157 V 5 87 
Muldoon . 96.13 98.7 122 % 70 
H. Smith . 91.6 95.3 
B. Smith . 89.0 • .. 
Mrs. Marsh .88.13 
Knevels . 84.1 96.11 ... 65 
Poor . 87.12 Withdrew. 
Champion . 98.10 102 87 
Marsh . 98.4 116 75 
A. Jay Marsh, Captain. 
Gulf Coast Fishing. 
New Orleans, La., May 18. — Editor Forest 
and Stream: The various fishing resorts on 
the Gulf coast report excellent luck during the 
past few days. Large parties were at the several 
clubs and good catches rewarded the faithful 
ones. Speckled trout are more plentiful this 
spring than at the same time last year. Striped 
bass, redfish and croakers were landed at Chef 
Menteur, Lake Catherine, Lookout and the Rigo- 
lets. Samuel Morel entertained a party of fish¬ 
ermen at Gay Gables on Lake Pontchartrain. 
The party enjoyed some fine sport Sunday and 
late in the afternoon a splendid dinner was 
served. Louis Moral carried off the honors by 
landing twdnty-five green trout. George Allain 
broke the record Sunday at Lookout by catch¬ 
ing thirty-five flounders in addition to several 
speckled trout. F. G. G. 
Illinois Casting Club. 
Chicago, Ill., May 17.— Editor Forest and 
Stream: Re-entries for the event of May 7— 
postponed on account of rain—may be taken as 
follows: In the half-ounce accuracy bait in the 
next two regular events, June 4 and July 9, but 
not thereafter, and in the remaining unplayed 
events any contest day during the season. 
An invitation has been kindly extended to us 
by the Elgin Anglers’ Club to visit them on June 
19, and it is hoped members will avail them¬ 
selves of this courtesy and visit a genial bunch 
of good fellows. The secretary will be pleased 
to furnish further details in due time. 
lit is but fair to Prof. Cox to add that his 
weather vane was not in proper working order 
for the opening event. The fine weather prophe¬ 
sied was for May 21. 
A. D. Whitby, Sec’y. 
The Anglers’ Casting Club of Chicago. 
Chicago, Ill., May 22.— Editor Forest and 
Stream: These scores were made in the club 
contest of this club to-day: 
Quarter-ounce accuracy bait event: 
Per C’t. 
Per C’t. 
Campbell . 
. 96.0 
Tamison . 
.... 98.7 
Kleinfeldt . 
. 97.5 
Chatt . 
Lingenfelter .. 
. 96.3 
Town . 
.... 98.1 
Slocum . 
. 96.3 
Place .. 
.... 98.1 
Loes . 
. 97.7 
Hokamp . 
.... 98.6 
Hartley . 
. 97.2 
Schulze . 
.... 93.3 
C Nordholm .. 
. 97.2 
Croley . 
.... 98.7 
Ouarter-ounce 
distance bait 
event, average fo 
r 5 casts: 
Lingenfelter ... 
.133% 
Kleinfeldt . 
.... 79% 
Chatt . 
.133% 
Hartley . 
.... 126% 
Town . 
.102% 
Cooley . 
.... 110% 
Jamison . 
.129% 
E. M. Town, 
Sec’y. 
Yachting Fixtures. 
MAY. 
28. New Rochelle Yacht Club, special. 
28. Seawanhaka Corinthian Yacht Club, club. 
28. Atlantic Yacht Club, special. 
28. Quincy Yacht Club, club. 
28-30. American Y. C. Newburyport, cruise. 
30. Harlem Yacht Club, annual. 
30. Bridgeport Yacht Club, spring. 
30. Seawanhaka-Corinthian Yacht Club, club. 
30. Brooklyn Yacht Club, special. 
30. Fall River Yacht Club, open. 
30. South Boston Y. R. A., open, City Point. 
30. Jubilee Yacht Club, club. 
L&rchmont’s Closed Regattas. 
The Larchmont Y. C. will this year hold re¬ 
gattas open only to yachts owned by members 
of that club. These regattas will be sailed on 
June 18, July 4 and Sept. 5 (Labor Day). Race 
week, which will begin on July 16 and last until 
July 23, will be open to yachts of any recog¬ 
nized club as usual. 
The action of the club will be a great sur¬ 
prise to all yachtsmen, and the announcement 
coming at this late day will cause some disap¬ 
pointment and inconvenience to owners of 
racing yachts. The club can of course do as it 
thinks best, but it would seem almost like a 
breach of faith on its part to accept open dates 
from the Yacht Racing Association of Long 
Island Sound, and then after the season 
schedules have been arranged to announce that 
the dates given up by the association should be 
for closed regattas. It has been said that all 
the best of the racing fleet is enrolled in the 
Larchmont Y. C. That is hardly true. It has 
a fair sized fleet of yachts, particularly in the 
larger classes, but the majority of the yachts in 
the handicap and smaller classes belong to other 
clubs. • 
The Larchmont Club does not belong to the 
Yacht Racing Association, but since the forma¬ 
tion of that association, it has worked with it in 
the arrangement of the season schedule, and in 
adopting rules that are uniform. In giving up 
the best racing dates of the season the delegates 
to the association have always presumed that 
the Larchmont Club will hold open races on 
those days. Now that the club has decided to 
make these regattas open only to members of 
the Larchmont Y. C., there will be many 
yachtsmen who will have not chance of a race 
on the big holidays of the season. 
It has been suggested that the Sound Asso¬ 
ciation rearrange its schedule and give to some 
club the dates set down for Larchmont. It has 
also been suggested that some of the other clubs 
on the Sound announce open regattas for those 
dates. It is probable that something will be 
done to take care of those yachtsmen who are 
not members of the Larchmont Club. 
Cutter Brynhild Sinks. 
Sir James Pender’s 23-meter cutter Brynhild, 
while taking part in a regatta off Felixtowe, 
England, last Monday against Sir Thomas Lip- 
ton’s Shamrock and Myles B. Kennedy’s White 
Heather, sank. Her mast suddenly toppled over¬ 
board and in a few minutes dragged the hull to 
the bottom of the North Sea. The crew were 
rescued by the torpedo destroyer Havock and 
later transferred to the steam yacht Erin. The 
race was abandoned. White Heather had re¬ 
cently been padded to allow her to carry more 
sail. She was built three years ago and stuck 
on the ways when being launched. Later a 
submarine ran amuck and fouled Shamrock, but 
did no damage. The race was the opening of 
the British season. 
