Sept. 25, 1909.] 
505 
stalena drew away from Aurora. The last leg 
.•as a broad reach at the start, but a change in 
he wind enabled the yachts to carry spin- 
akers. Istalena beat Aurora by 5m. 43s. and 
Vinsome by 23m. 4s. 
Dorwina and Eleanora sailed in class M, and 
)orwina sailed away from Elenora and finished 
lone. A mixed class race was arranged be- 
iveen these two sloops and the schooner 
filadi, but Miladi did not finish. Five of the 
lew York 30-footers started, and the race was 
•on by Johnston de Forests Nepsi. That yacht 
eat Atair 2m. 18s. and Phryne 7m. 40s. The 
nmnaries: 
talena, G. M. Pynchon. 
urora, C. Vanderbilt. 
insome, H. F. Lippitt. 
Sloops—Class M—Start, 12 
orwina, E. C. Ray.. 
Icanora, Lawrence Darr. 
Finish. Elapsed, 
- 5 36 02 4 56 02 
- 5 41 45 5 01 45 
.... 5 59 06 5 14 06 
:45-21% Miles. 
.... 6 OS 23 5 23 23 
.... Withdrew. 
.Special Mixed Class—Start, 12:45—21% Miles. 
orwina, E. C. Ray. 6 08 23 5 23 23 
eanora, Lawrence Darr . Withdrew. 
iladi, G. E. Scott. Withdrew. 
New York 30-footers—Start, 
epsi, Johnston de Forest. 
air, J. E. & G. C. Meyer_ 
ltyne. J. F. O’Rourke. 
ihinda, G. E. Roosevelt. 
era, A. H. & J. W. Alker_ 
12:50—21% Miles. 
. 6 36 27 5 46 27 
. 6 38 45 5 48 45 
. 6 44 07 5 54 07 
. Not timed. 
. Not timed. 
German Yachtsmen Entertained. 
Commodore William H. Childs, owner of 
yette, winner of the President Taft cup, en- 
rtained the visiting German yachtsmen at 
nner at the Atlantic Y. C. on Friday, Sept. 17. 
le German yachtsmen present were Capt.- 
eut. Tietgens, H. Kirsten and E. Koch, of 
a Margarethe; O. Berghoff and R. C. Krog- 
tn, Jr., of the Seehund II. 
The tables in the dining room were most 
tistically arranged and were decorated with 
wers and the German and American colors. 
ie President Taft cup stood on a side table 
d was filled with a Childs punch, and pictures 
the Sonder boats and of the crews were dis¬ 
ced about the room. Commodore Childs 
isided and among those present were Rear- 
mmodore H. G. S. Noble, of the Atlantic 
C.; Commodore Francis M. Wilson, Vice- 
mmodore Edgar F. Luckenbach and Rear- 
mmodore Charles J. McDermott, of the 
escent Athletic Club; Addison G. Hanan, 
to Heinigke, F. G. Stewart, Commodore R. 
Doremus, H. S. Boucher, R. C. Veit, Hen- 
1 Chubb, John R. Brophy, Bartow S. Weeks, 
S. Bradley, John Lawrence, of the Eastern 
C.; L. S. Tiemann, of the New York Canoe 
ib; Geojrge R. Le Sauvage, John Brown, 
■red Mackay and George Beston of the 
rnsonhurst Y. C.; J. S. Bradley,’ of the 
poklyn \. C.; Robert S. Speir, of the At¬ 
tic \. C.; Charles D. Mower, designer of 
•ette; W. W. Swan and Butler Whiting of 
crew of Joyette; R. S. Childs, Richard 
mmell, Charles M. Camp, of the Marine and 
Id Club, Benjamin A. Keiley, and many 
ers, about sixty in all. 
ommodore Childs welcomed the German 
tors and paid a glowing tribute to their 
1 as sailors and their character as sports- 
i, and declared that in future races they 
uld have to be taken very seriously, as they 
shown that they had learned much and had 
1 two races in American waters, while the 
means had never been successful at Kiel. 
Kirsten replied for the Germans. He 
iked the commodore for many kindnesses 
declared that it had been one round of en- 
ainment for them since they had been on 
side of the Atlantic, and he hoped that 
would have an opportunity to reciprocate 
viel in the near future. He wound up by 
ng on the Germans to give three cheers, 
man style, for the American yachtsmen, 
here were many other speeches during the 
"ng or speechettes, as Commodore Childs 
I' f c \,r nd , amon g th ose who spoke were 
ow i>. Weeks, Commodore Wilson, Rear- 
unodore Noble, Charles D. Mower, C. M. 
>P. L. S. Tiemann, Addison G. Hanan, John 
Hence, who told about coming races and 
! ea Gravesend Bay yachtsmen to build boats 
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to take part; F. G. Stewart and others. Addison 
G. Hanan said he had become so interested in 
the Sonder boat that he might have one to 
take part in the next races. 
dheie were songs written for the occasion 
and there was lots of fun, so that each one 
present had a royal good time. It was learned 
during the evening that the next series of 
races with the Germans will be sailed two years 
hence at Kiel, and that the 1 announcement of 
these races will be made in due time by the 
Eastern Y . C. 1 here will be an inter-city 
match next season, and it is probable that some 
ot the Gravesend Bay yachtsmen who are try¬ 
ing to buy Sonder boats will build for the 
class if they do not succeed in purchasing the 
boats they want. 
Otto Berghoff, Hans Kirsten and Lieutenant 
Commander Hans I ietgens, three of the Ger- 
man yachtsmen who came over to take part in 
the Sonderklasse races off Marblehead, left for 
home last Saturday on the Deutschland, of the 
Hamburg-American line. All expressed them¬ 
selves as delighted with their treatment over 
here and had no unfavorable criticism to make 
of the racing arrangements. 
o " T u < W ra ?? S were P erf ectly fair,” said Mr. 
-Dergnorr, but for conditions over here the 
American boats were just a little better than 
ours. We can only win in a light breeze or 
in a very strong wind with a short sea. We 
can only take the cup when we have one boat 
that will beat the Americans in reaching. We 
had none this time and therefore had small 
chance of winning in American waters under 
ordinary conditions. 
“As to our sailing ability I think we are equal 
to the American yachtsmen. Certainly our Mr. 
j r °tzen proved to be as good as the crew of 
Joyette. We are taking over Crooner with us 
to study. 
I do not think there is the slightest prob¬ 
ability of a challenge for the America’s cup 
from a German source so long as the rules re¬ 
main as they are,” Mr. Berghoff said in answer 
to a question. “In Germany we have no feel¬ 
ing for big cutters. Our best class is that of 
the big schooners, to which belong Meteor Ger¬ 
mania, Hamburg and the old Meteor, and we 
are building two others. 
“I think we would compete for the America’s 
cup only if the rules were changed to admit of 
a race between strong, seaworthy schooners. If 
this were done German sportsmen would soon 
send a challenge.” 
Jewel S Boats Win. 
The series of three races sailed between five 
of the Glen Cove 20-footers, known as the 
Jewel S class, built from designs by Cox & 
Stevens, and the Manhasset Bay one-design 20- 
footers, built from designs by H. J. Gielow, was 
won by the Glen Cove boats by a total score 
of 88 points to 76. The scores in the three races 
were: Glen Cove, 22, 30, 36—total, 88; Man¬ 
hasset Bay, 33, 25, 18—total, 76. In the last 
race Kit, of Manhasset Bay, did not start, but 
even if she had and had won the result would 
not have been changed. 
The times made in the first race of the series 
were published in last week s Forest and Stream 
The times in the other races follow: 
Second Race.—Althea, 1.57.35; Kit, r.59.06 
Moonstone, 2.00.57; Garnet, 2.02.13; Emerald 
2-03.15; Aquamarine, 2.03.30; Sapphire, 2.03.42 
Ardette, 2.04.45; Scylla, 2.05.11; Manhaska 
2.05.15. 
Third Race.—Garnet, 2.06.14; Emerald, 2.09.56 
Althea. 2.10.54; Moonstone, 2.11.23; Sapphire 
2.11.25; Ardette, 2.13.06; Aquamarine, 2.13.20 
Scylla, 2.13.31; Manhaska, 2.16.39. 
Two more Glen Cove boats have been ordered 
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Seveial more will be built before next season. 
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