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FOREST AND STREAM. 
[Nov. 20, 1909. 
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Styles of 
SAUER GUNS 
Offering Guns at Exceptionally Low Figures 
SCHOVERLING, DALY & GALES 
302-304 Broadway 
New York 
FE'RGVSrOJV’S 
Patent Reflecting Lamps 
THOMAS J. CONROY, Agent, 
28 John Street, 
Cor. Nassau St., 
New York. 
With Silver Plated 
LocomotiveReflec- 
tors and Adjustable 
Attachments. 
UNIVERSAL LAMP, 
For Sportsmen’s use. Gombines Head 
Jack (Front and Top), Boat Jack, Fishing', 
Camp, Belt and Dash Lamp, Hand Lan¬ 
tern, etc. 
EXCELSIOR LAMP, 
For Night Driving, Hunting, Fishing, etc. 
Is adjustable to any kind of dash or vehi¬ 
cle. Send stamp for Illustrated Catalogue 
and address all orders Lamp Department. 
Building Motor Boats and 
Managing Gasolene Engines 
are discussed in (he book 
"HOW TO BUILD A LAUNCH FROM PLANS" 
complete illustrated work on the building of motor 
boats and the installing, care and running of gasolene 
motors. By Charles G. Davis. With 40 diagrams, 9 
folding drawings and 3 full-page plans. Price, po»t- 
paid, $1.60. 
The author is a builder and designer of national repu¬ 
tation. All the instruction given is defined and com¬ 
prehensive, 40 diagrams, 9 folding drawings and 3 full- 
page plans. That portion of the book devoted to the 
use and care of gas engines should be most carefully 
perused by every individual who operates one. The book 
is well worth the price asked for it. 
FOREST AND STREAM PUBLISHING CO. 
Here is a double barrel, hammerless gun, superior in every way 
to any other built, and backed by a guarantee that means what it says. 
The “Fox” gun outclasses competition—in beauty of line and model— 
in high class materials and artistic finish—in strength and simplicity—in easy 
handling and in close, hard shooting ability. It’s 
“The Finest Gun in the World” 
Half the parts in others—twice the strength of others—genuine Krupp 
Fluid Steel Barrels in all grades—unbreakable coil main and top lever springs 
and a rotary locking bolt "that can’t shoot loose. Write for Art Catalogue. 
Net prices $37.50 to $362.00. If your dealer cannot supply 
you, or offers substitutes, send your order direct to us. 
The A. H. Fox Gun Company, 4670 North 18th Street, Philadelphia, Pa. 
aru„ a H. Fox Gun 
by the claws of several bears which had made 
ineffectual efforts to get at the hive and honey.] 
The bears had evidently scented the hive or 
heard the bees moving from the ground, and it 
is not difficult to imagine the chagrin of poor 
Bruin, after his daring climb, to discover that 
the delicacy which assailed his nostrils was just 
beyond his reach, and that he must return 
sorrowfully, letting himself down backward, to 
the place whence he came.—A. F. R. in The 
Asian. 
GUN STOCK MEASUREMENT. 
The subject of gun fitting is a more or less 
welcome theme to the dual interests comprising 
the man who shoots and the man who supplies 
the weapon to shoot with. Long before the ad¬ 
vent of the try-gun, all gunmakers, worthy of 
the name, understood the science of gun fitting 
and were able to secure a successful fit. It per¬ 
haps would be incorrect to say that their 
methods of fitting their views upon the subject 
have been revolutionized since the try-gun was 
pressed into the gunfitter’s equipment. Rather, 
might one remark, it is the increased attention 
which testing grounds and try-guns have di¬ 
rected to the question that has brought in its 
train a desire to account for the why and where¬ 
fore of practical and successful methods of gun; 
fitting. 
After all, says Henry Sharp in the Asian, it 
matters little to the sportsman, so long as he is 
properly fitted, how the stock dimensions arc 
arrived at. It does, however, matter very much 
indeed if the man with a try-gun is ignorant of 
the bases upon which acceptable dimensions 
suitable for a variety of personal needs have 
been decided, so that when meeting with some 
fresh condition he is guided by ill-conceived and 
inaccurate notions. Length, bend, cast-off and 
general stock formation must have been studied 
in all their bearings, or thoughtless application 
of superficial knowledge will assuredly land the 
customer—one might in this case almost say 
victim—in disaster. _ s 
Inconstancy of habit or of movement is more 
or less inseparable from human nature, and it 
is but fair to the gunfitter to remark that while 
he may succeed in giving his client a highly 
creditable fitting gun stock as regards bend, cast¬ 
off and so forth, yet all his skillful calculations 
and judgment in respect of length are liable to| 
be rendered more or less nugatory by the sub-, 
sequent actions of his customer. The shooter 
is always master of the position, and one domi¬ 
nant factor, possibly not sufficiently regarded, is 
the amount of extension of the left or forward 
arm as an influence of first importance in regu¬ 
lating gun stock length. _ 1 
So far as my knowledge or experience of 
past generations of shooters extends I believe; 
it to be a fact that at a former period it was 
customary to hold the left hand very much 
nearer to the trigger guard than at present is 
the case. Old-time shooters often held the left 
hand immediately in front of, or actually press¬ 
ing against, the trigger guard. 
Now we all seem to have acquired the habit 
of holding well forward on, or just beyond, the 
fore end, while some extremists outstretch still 
further and grasp the barrels well clear of the 
fore end. 
In some quarters it would seem to be imag¬ 
ined that because for convenient practice it was 
customary to take the length measurement of a 
gun stock from the fore trigger, the right arm 
alone governed the determination of that length. 
However, practical knowledge and scientific 
thought have recognized and taken into account 
the influence of the left arm when ascertaining, 
the length dimensions of stocks for individual 
requirements, and herein is one of the direc¬ 
tions in which the practical and painstaking gun- 
fitter—and perhaps one ought here to include 
the shooting instructor—will be found to excel. 
But because this is incontrovertibly the case, no 
true expert supposes that length measurement 
should be taken from the left hand instead of 
from the right hand. The two should be con¬ 
sidered together, and if this is done the cor¬ 
rect length from trigger to butt, which the two 
