68 
FOREST AND STREAM. 
[Jan. ii, 1908 . 
The second team contest between the Northside Rod 
and Gun Club, of Paterson, N. J., and the Maywood 
Gun Club, was shot on the grounds of the latter on Jan. 
4 There were five men on a side. The Maywood team 
won by a score of 100 to 95. The Northside team was 
victor in the team contest on Christmas Day. The next 
match will be shot on the Northside Gun Club grounds. 
The 
O’Brien 
Williamson 
The shooters of the Crescent Athletic Club, Brooklyn, 
had most unpleasant weather conditions to face on 
Saturday of last week, there being much rain wind, 
rawness of temperature and bad light. A valuable gun, 
offered as a prize by Mr. T. W. Stake, brought out a 
strong field, thirteen shooters contesting. The one w 
scores the most legs on it in a series of nine contests 
commencing on Jan. 4, is the winner. Each contestant 
must participate in at least three contests to qualify. 
Mr H. B. Vanderveer scored the first win. Mr. J. • 
Ernst scored the first leg on the January cup with -3. 
The leg in the team contest went to the credit of Messrs. 
J B. Stephenson and L. M. Palmer, Jr. Mr. L. C. 
Hopkins was the only one who scored the limit in one 
event of the day. 
competition. The Preliminary handicap will follow, 
conditions of the latter are 100 targets, unknown angles, 
$7 entrance (targets included), handicaps 16 to 21 yds., 
$75 added, high guns. Five 15-target events will be 
shot on Jan. 25, prior to the Midwinter handicap, at 100 
targets, $10 entrance, handicaps 16 to 21 yds., high guns, 
$125 added. The members of the handicap committee 
are George L. Lyon (chairman), Durham, N. C.; Joseph 
H. Hunter, Washington, D. C.; C. W. Billings Ocean 
Port, N.J.; Dr. Edward F. Gleason, Boston, and J. • erns 
Johnson," Raleigh, N. C. G. Dan Morgan, Pinehurst, is 
Secretary-Manager. 
Schug . 9 4 
G Emmons . ° ® 
A Emmons . 4 10 
Short 
. 10 .. .. 
12 4 .. 5 10 15 
5 .. 8 .. .. 8 15 
10 
13 
12 13 
McKane . 9 12 13 
9 11 
8 
Van Valer . 6 .5. 
May .. 
Ryder . 3 " ' 
Hoffmeier . 12 
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Bernard Waters. 
About Handicaps. 
W. Va., Dec. 28, 1907.—While there has 
be S en T a RS g V reat E de V a V l' said and' bitten''about'"'the several 
forms of handicap for the trapshooter it has occurred 
to the writer that the half has not been told, ana tnai 
it would be interesting if the representative sl4 ° oter | 
throughout the country would take up the matter 
give us their views through the columns of th e severa 
imin 1 c As for our ODimon, we will start 
sportsmen’s journals.^ Asjor^our S ee the 
Secretary-Manager Elmer E. Shaner has mailed us some CrosT^ efal. ma"or"- 
forms, application and explanatory, for registered tour- cap ^ ' hoo d rS) but because the majority of our 
naments under the auspices of the Interstate Associa- fh y ooters have remained silent on the subject and tak 
tion. They are very complete and are a model of typo- them medicine. ^ criticise the management of any 
graphical excellence and good taste. He says, I have W c shootirlg organization. or are 
mailed 7,560 of the blanks, and an equal number of f we think: therrJ absolutely they 
explanatory forms, to gun clubs and individuals through : d °' n S- the face of the ’earth will you find a half 
out the United States and Canada. I would be pleased Where m ° n n _ strictl speaking who are c f? b ' e dr f d P ™E'. 
to have you state in the trap department of I-orest and ef]y handic apping fifty, .seventy-five om h h 0 u ™ r ^ tis c fied 
Stream that I will gladly send blanks and explanatory money Tnd a g'ood 
forms to any person who makes application for them. 
Application for sanction must be made not less than 
thirty days prior to the opening date of the tourna¬ 
ment, otherwise the conditions are as published in 
Forest and Stream of Dec. 14, last year. 
number would have remained 
The fearless criticism of Mr. Ed. O. Bower, of Sisters- 
ville W Va., on the matter of handicapping, published 
in our trap columns this week, contains much over 
which the trapshooter may wisely pause and ponder. 
The main purpose of the Interstate Association appears 
to be to make the G. A. H. the largest handicap numer¬ 
ically that it is possible to compass. The consumption 
of ammunition in future years, as well as at the present 
moment should also be considered by the I. A. Quality 
of the G. A. H. shooters should dominate quant 
entrance fee of the G. A. H. should be at least 
at least distinguish it financially from a cross roads 
shoot. The Interstate Association should lhave its 
own permanent, fully equipped grounds, for the reason 
best sport in,the world. ^ ^ Grand merican Ha ndi- 
the premier event of “ie 
, „U the wool’over the eyes of several hundred 
shoo ers and skin them out of some money? 
shoote - who knows but the h{e of some of our 
clubs is sorely affected by these larger 
.j^ c-u AAfprc home with the blues De- 
cap. which is looked upon as 
‘ rr> _ -.11 4-V>n nrrtftl fWP f t 
year 
of our 
Certainly not 
vpr v best cun clubs is soreiy auctiv-u u; <■ 
tournaments sending shooters home with the 
cause of their handicap.^ 
if these tournaments were 
that might _ possibly cut: the at- 
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9 9 8 .. 
7 13 9 .. 
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Merchandise event; 
Class 
A. 
. 20 21—41 
Re-entrv. 
22 20-42 
. 21 20—41 
22 22—44 
.. 13 13—26 
17 18-35 
.. 21 18—39 
G K Kouwenhoven, 18. 
. . 23 21—44 
Class 
B. 
.. 19 19—38 
20 18—38 
.. 21 15—36 
.. 15 18—33 
14 17—31 
.. 17 20—37 
23 20—43 
11 U L»ci gcu, -*• .- 
.. 17 18—35 
..15 14—29 
.. 17 21—38 
.. 16 15—31 
.. 19 19—38 
18 19—37 
.. 15 20—35 
.. 21 18—39 
19 17—36 
..18 17—35 
23 16—39 
A L Burns, i7 . 
Class 
C. 
.. 18 18—36 
.. 15 13—28 
.. 13 14—27 
17 21—38 
.. 16 12-28 
9 10—19' 
. . 10 11—21 
.. 17 15—32 
.. 11 4—15 
..11 12—23 
..11 10—21 
.. 12 9—21 
14 14—28 
. . 17 16—33 
. .. 18 10—28 
... 20 20-40 
... 18 17—35 
...14 14—28 
... 15 11—26 
12 15—27 
1 3 V dll ' dlt-l , ao • . , 
... 16 16—32 
W H Johnson, 17... 
.... 18 19 37 
Dec. 28.- 
Beach Gun Club, ha<T eleven participants. The st^ per¬ 
former was Mr. Geo. Kouwenhoven who scored 68 out 
From the 21yd. mark he broke 18 out ot A 
c-e«C«S thosrwho 
tendance d ° bo " T 1 J'Reeling*that "they at least had an equal 
H. shooters should dominate quantity. The chance’with the other fellow t0 ‘would” be' Setter number "of new shooters are in evidence. 
$25 to that the feeling all ‘KSVcourazed rather Jan. 4,-The weather was windy, rainy and 
of 75. 
to-day and the art of eye. 
than the P° S „ S i bi l^o°ating b a ein s g chfmrthat will allow . 
We are not 
certain few to 
adV ° C the n furker l each year; far from it. 
ter—after their congratulations 
that the ciuu, navies w..,- -- — — —tor tne munass.i.y.. — ry' ' i VP „ r bu 
present conditions must endeavor to reimburse itself at j hey shall expect him back ^ gun clubs^ of 
lanent, tuny equipped gruunua, ‘fr ““ lld be an easy matter—alter tneir s 
club, having the G. A. H. in _charge^ under managementjo^ politely inform the wmne^that Dreyer 
present wuumuua -- . , , . . , v. bit?- nrize. JNeariy an me guu j 
the first attempt for the extra _ outlay unavoidably m- barre^from th thefr "practice shooting 
curred, as it has no assurance whatever that it will have the ^her they would have a cl^ance^o w.n^tmev ^ 
second opportunity to obtain revenue for the extra lik e, « will^My, ^he £ v a e nd he A satisfa ction of knowing 
not, 
who may be an ex- 
capital invested. The abuses incidental to so-called doi [ a ' - - t , ; friend trom ivnssuui., «**« . d 
tions would be eliminated if the Association owned its ^hat.y^ shot and t known, did slip in, and 
, rr*i_ _ Untitovpr i«= vprv broad, and ...:a *u\ c orlvnntace. carry on tne prum. _ 
we . 
they would at ... 
their friend from Missouri, 
lucky number of Mr. Shevlin seemed to be 
Scores follow: - 
Events; 
Targets: 
)reyer ... 
Bergen . 14 
Hopkins . 
Armitage . 
Thompson ...*.. 
Shevlin . 7, 
Osterhout . q 
Slavin .. 
raw. The 
13 out of 25. 
2 
25 
15 
16 
19 
10 
15 
13 
12 
8 
5 
25 
11 
6 
25 
12 - 
18 
21 
20 
12 
12 
18 
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12 
13 
14 
18 
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13 
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11 
11 
10 
20 
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grounds. The subject, however, is very broad, and with this advantage, carry off unde rstqod 
.t • u. orlmnrn and Tn conclusion, We desire _ oil ottpntmn 
has much of interest which can be advanced pro and 
con. We cordially indorse Mr. Bower’s suggestion that 
the shooters, the men who pay the freight, discuss the 
matter openly. 
In conclusion, we simply to call attention 
as finding fault with ^ possibility" of an error, with 
to Vbere we think there is ^ shoot ers of the country 
?hr V ough°t f hfcoTumns of the severa, paners^ 
Bower. 
The Pinehurst midwinter handicap tournament, to be 
held under the auspices of the Pinehurst, N. C., Country 
Club Jan 23-25, has an exceptionally attractive pro¬ 
gramme. The club will add $500 and two Gorham 
sterling cups; one for the winner of first money in the 
midwinter handicap and one for the winner of the 
Preliminary handicap; also a gold and two silver medals 
for amateur high average, and a gold medal for the 
professionals. To the amateurs who shoot in all the 
regular events and who fail to win back their entrance 
money, $300 will be divided pro rata. In no case, how¬ 
ever, will more than the total amount of entrance 
money, less price of targets, be paid a contestant. An 
extra entrance fee of $1 per day will be charged each 
amateur, and the fund so created will be added to the 
Squier money back system. In case of a surplus after 
the losses have been paid, the surplus will be divided 
among the high gun amateurs of the three days. Am¬ 
munition can be shipped care Pinehurst Gun Club, but a 
full line will be provided on the grounds. The grounds 
will be open for practice on days prior to Jan. 23. Com¬ 
petition will commence at 9 o’clock each day. Pro¬ 
fessionals will shoot for targets only, and will be handi¬ 
capped by the committee. On the first day ten 15-target 
events, $1.50 entrance, scratch, are provided. On the 
second day, five 15-target events will afford morning 
Bergen Beach Gun Club. 
Jan. 1.—There 
t> - t T Tan 1—There was a fine at- 
Bergen N ^w YeaVs'Day shoot of the Bergen 
W?wh nC Gun Club The weather conditions were favor- 
ab d' C T each C °clals ta having er r e espectfvely 1, 18? 17^nd* 16yds. 
The compethion^wa^ bo| awee^ke ^-rc^ndise, 
Johnson and''Frank Lawrence. The sweepstake events 
{oUow: i 9 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 
EventS: is 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 25 
Howard* 8 ’.$ U 13 14 U U V ^ shot^ w^'esDecially Milliman J 
Bergen .V 5 9 6 '? TT .. . . breaking 90 out of 100 targets Mr*. Butter also »hot 
Weiskotten .. 13 14 14 12 i2 . well, she breaking 7/ out of 100 targets this is 
Burns .^ *5 7 8 9 7 7 4 4 6 . remarkable shooting for Mrs But er asi she has been 
Strader ... : . o I 7 4 fi 7 6 10 11. participating in gun club events only a short time. 1 he 
Tri-County Trap Shooting League 
Troy N. Y., Dec. 30.—This league will be known as 
ihe Tri-County Trapshooting League. It was organized 
Saturday by the Mountain View Gun Club of this citjj, 
the Pine Hills Gun Club of Albany, and the Mqhawk 
-nd Schenectady gun clubs of Schenectady. It is th 
fntenfion of the league to hold a tournament once each 
m The ’ Mount a*in r View club will hold its league tourna¬ 
ment Saturday Jan. 25, on the grounds at Sycaway 
while the Schenectady and Mohawk S^n clubs will hold 
a “oft 
" The' Moun°tain le Vi e e a vv Ur Club went to A 1 b an ^ 00 ^ at 0 'f r the 
^e P S?» d 
vailed, only fourteen shooters took part. John Sanders, 
rtf Alhnnv was high gun, breaking 95 out. of 1UU tar 
pets The’ only professional present was Genial Sim | 
fjover . 1 of the ISallistite Empire Powder Company, 
nn— Welling of Mechanicsville, Captain Wallburg 
Adelbahr, of Schenectady were afao ]; on_han| f 
Mrs, 
100 targets. 
“uti •••••■ q k 7 a k , __ 
R Schoverhng .. 11 13 12 13 9 11 15 . 10 22 
Schorty .V.'.'. 9 8 12 10 14 13 11 10 9 11 11 12 
scores: 
Dreyer . ? 
Fagan . 
Seymour .. 13 12 
.'.'..13 12 14 
Maier . o 2 
Hendrickson . 15 14 11 
Gracely . 
Haney 
6 7 8 7 
8 12 12 12 11 11 
Sanders 
11 
Potter 
7 .. .. 
9 7 12 9 12 10 .. 
.... 12 13 10 9 22 
*Glover . 
Milliman . 
Hurd . 
.. i3 i2 ll 10 1.2 24 
Roberts . 
4 .. .. 
.. 6 .. 9. 
Farrell . 
8 10 13 0 
9 .. .. 
9. 7 .. 
11 11 13 10 14 .. .. 
Ruth . 
g 
*Professicnal. 
Shot 
Shot 
Brk. 
at. 
.. 100 
95 
Wallburg .. 
... 100 
. 100 
91 
Mrs. Butler 
... 100 
.. 100 
90 
Welling .... 
... 100 
.. 100 
89 
Butler . 
. 100 
89 
Dolan . 
... 90 
.. 100 
88 
Adelbahr ... 
.. 100 
84 
Brk. 
81 
77 
68 
64 
62 
39 
J. J, Farrell, Sec’y. 
