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forest and stream 
June, 1918 
P. H. C., Pittsburgh, Pa.: 
We have received the following commu¬ 
nication from one of our readers: 
In your April number, Seneca’s Hints, 
Helps' and Answers, P. H. C„ Pittsburgh, 
Pa., asks if there is any method of correct¬ 
ing a dog of gun shyness. 
Before answering this question it would 
be well to ask how long a time has the 
dog been so, his age, etc. 
I know of one instance where a gun 
shv dog was outwitted by his trainer. 
First the man petted the dog and fed him 
some scraps of meat, after which they re¬ 
paired to a rowboat and proceeded to the 
middle of the lake. 
The man then quietly took his gun and 
fired. Of course the dog started for home, 
while the man proceeded to row between 
the dog and shore when he again shot his 
gun. After repeating these tactics several 
times the dog decided to get in the boat, 
where he was received with kindness and 
more meat scraps. The gun was again 
used, but the dog failed to start for home. 
This treatment was followed up for sev¬ 
eral days in succession after which the 
dog was cured. 
Of course there is a great difference in 
dogs. I owned an Irish setter that was 
gun shy and I remember having hint out 
in a boat on one occasion and when I fired 
my gun he did not try to jump out of the 
boat but simply lay there and trembled. 
I also took him to the clay bird shots and 
kept him right under the gun for hours at 
a time all to no purpose. 
J. M. Austin, N. \. 
Ans. to P. H. C., Pittsburgh, Pa., in April 
number: 
Is there any method of correcting a dog 
of gun shyness? Build a good size pen 
with top so dog cannot get out. Place the 
gan-shy dog in pen with an old dog that 
is not gun-shy. Keep plenty of water for 
them but no food. Feed twice a day just 
outside of the pen door: at feeding time 
always have your small rifle ready; as soon 
as the dogs come out for the feed fire 
the rifle. The gun-shy dog will retreat to 
the back of the pen and there remain. Do 
not speak to him or in any way endeavor 
to coax him out. Just forget he is on 
earth, for in this case silence is golden. 
Repeat the operation from day to day and 
in less than a week your gun-shy dog will 
stand for his feed beside the old one with 
just a start when you fire; then you ma) 
reach down and pet him and speak kindly. 
You may then allow him to run in the yard 
for a few minutes. Lock them back in the 
pen and continue the treatment for a few 
days more, then remove the old dog and 
give the pup a few treatments alone. I 
think you will find the result all you could 
ask. If you live in the country you can 
use your shot gun after you have removed 
the old dog. Never fire directly over the 
dog; give him a chance to understand 
what's going on. 
J. E. Storey, Texas. 
Seeing the question of P. H. C., Pitts¬ 
burgh, Pa., about ground hogs, will say 
I have had very good success with a 
22 cal. rifle. I shot sixty hogs summer of 
1916. My friend and I shot fifty-one hogs 
in 1917, I getting forty-three of them. As 
to the time to hunt them, here in Penn¬ 
sylvania I have found about the last week 
in June is about the right time to start as 
the young will be near half grown, and as 
I think they are much better eating than 
rabbits, it is a waste to shoot them too 
soon. 
Now as the ground hog season is com¬ 
ing, and so is poison ivy, a little remedy 
may be appreciated by some. I get poi¬ 
soned every time I go out if I do not use 
this remedy. The first thing I do is to get 
glassweed or wild touch-me-not (the same 
thing) and squeeze and work it up to a 
pulp, then rub it over all places exposed, 
say face, neck and hands. If I forget 
this, then I am poisoned, but a few rubs of 
the same thing will cure me. I could men¬ 
tion lots of cures, but find this to be the 
quickest and best cure. 
Now being as P. H. C. lives in the same 
burg as I do, would like very much to meet 
him, and tell him what little I know about 
ground hogs. If you wish to print this, 
you may use my name and address, and it 
P. H. C. wishes to call on me, I would be 
very glad to have a talk with him. 
Wishing you success with your good 
work, I remain, 
J. H. Smith. 
So. Mathilda Street, Pittsburgh, Pa. 
L. M. M., New York: 
Replying to your query in the April 
Forest and Stream as to the best method of 
preserving fish without ice, we have re¬ 
ceived the following communication from 
one of our readers with the request that we 
publish it in these columns: 
One summer, when it was pretty warm, 
we wanted to bring home from Algonquin 
Park some trout but had no ice. The fish, 
which were large size, a pound and over, 
were hung where the smoke from the camp 
fire caught them for a few hours. When 
we broke camp the fish were cleaned and 
gills removed, not washed, plentifully pep 
pered inside, no salt, and wrapped each one 
separately in paper. On getting to the hotel 
they were put on the sawdust in the ice 
house. Next morning they were put in a 
bag and brought home. These fish were 
caught on Saturday and Sunday and were 
eaten for dinner on Tuesday evening. The 
flavor was perfect; in fact, they were the 
only trout I ever cared about eating at home 
after coming out of the woods. I have 
brought ducks and prairie chickens from 
Saskatchewan to Ontario—four days’ jour¬ 
ney—by drawing them, wiping them inside 
and dusting in lots of pepper, and stuffing 
with hay. Each bird was wrapped sepa- 
ratelv in paper, which has a good deal to 
do with their preservation. 
C. W. Young, Ont. 
Dr. C. M. M., Wisconsin: 
I have a Chesapeake duck dog and would 
like a book of instructions on training. 
Do you know of a book on training water 
dogs ? 
Ans.—There is no book devoted solely 
to the training of water dogs of this kind, 
but we can supply you with a copy of the 
“Amateur Dog Book’’ that gives you a 
great deal of information on this subject. 
The price of this book is SOO- 
C. T., Milwaukee, Wis.: 
Will you kindly answer in your Seneca’s 
Hints, Helps and Answers column whether 
you have ever heard of anybody catching 
trout by placing their arm and hand in the 
water; they stroke and tickle the trout, 
finally grab same and in this manner catch 
them. 
Ans.—There is such a method that was 
formerly practised more than it is at pres¬ 
ent, particularly in England and Ireland. 
It is most successful in those streams that 
have overhanging banks with pockets in 
which the fish lie. It is necessary that 
these locations be known. The approach 
to the bank is made quietly and the water 
and surroundings are not disturbed any 
more than necessary. The operator lie? 
at full length upon the bank, reaches care¬ 
fully down into the water and moves very 
cautiously until his fingers come in contact 
with the trout, then the fish is promptly 
seized and pitched up on the bank. 
Dr. J. F. Simons, D.D.S.: 
A letter addressed to Mr. Henry Bannon 
c/o Forest and Stream, 9 East 40th Street 
New York, will be promptly forwarded t< 
him. You forgot to give your address. 
K. I. S., Wisconsin: 
I have read with great enjoyment .Dr 
Holden’s excellent articles on fly-tying 
especially the article in the May issue., 
wish you could arrange to have him giv 
the kind of material that is used in makin 
the Ginger Quill, Red Upright, Blue U{ 
right, etc. This would greatly interest m 
and probably others of y'our readers. 
Ans. Your query was referred to D 
Holden, who answers as follows: 
Ginger Quill is an upright-winged floate 
Wings, greyish or light brown, and pre' 
erablv transparent. May be made fro 
scales, starling wing-feather, or undi 
feather of mallard’s wing, or from pigeon 
wing. Body of quill, preferably the midr 
of peacock eye-feather herb Legs at 
Tail, yellow brown hackle. 
Blue Upright is a wet fly, much used 
Devonshire, England. Wings, Leg at 
Tail, light blue. Body, white ribbed wi 
black silk. Wings may be made from bln 
jay or pigeon’s wing feather, or white due 
dyed. Legs and tail, from light blue A 
dalusian hackle or Leghorn hackle, dyed. 
Rea Upright is a hackled floater, the d 
tailed coloration of which is unknown 
me. Dr. George Parker Holden. 
