Bantams other than Games—E. P. Howlett, Syracuse, 
N. Y.; E.S. Ongley, Auburn, N. Y.; P. Williams, Taun- 
ton, Mass. 
Various Class—Rev. Wm. Atwood, Big Flats, N. Y.; 
W. H. Todd, Vermilion, Ohio; S. H. Seamans, Wauwatosa, 
Wis. 
Turkeys—Geo. Vanderveer, Port Jackson, N. Y.; J. Y. 
Bicknell, Westmoreland, N. Y.; M. H. Cryer, Massillon, 
Ohio ; W. H. Todd, Vermilion, Ohio. 
Geese and Ducks—W. H. Todd, Vermilion, Ohio; C. B. 
Elben, Pittsburg, Pa. ; Daniel Allen, Galt, Ont. 
Your committee recommend that the Association instruct 
the committees on the respective breeds to make their re- 
ports on the numerical basis of one hundred. 
Mr. Williams moved that all correspondence relating to 
the alteration of the standard, be passed over to these com- 
mittees, and the motion was carried without opposition. 
Mr. Halsted moved that the Committee on Asiatics be 
instructed to make the word size mean weight. 
Mr. Churchman thinks this should be discussed by the 
committee on all classes of birds. 
Mr. Halsted’s motion that the size of Asiatics be made 
uniform, discussed by Mr. Felch, and thinks ten is a small 
enough number to allow for weight. 
Mr. Halsted thinks size should be independent from 
weight. 
Mr. Lockwood thinks the matter should be discussed after 
the report of the sub-committees. 
Mr. Halsted thinks the birds should be judged as they ave 
in size, and not as they may be in future development. 
Mr. Felch thinks weight should prevail, rather than a 
large frame not yet developed or matured. 
Mr. Williams speaks on the improvement in size of birds 
at recent shows, and thinks size and weight should remain 
in the standard as at present, and thinks fifteen is the better 
number. 
Mr, Halsted wants the number fifteen and not twenty on 
all Asiatics. 
Mr. Hudson suggests size and weight rather than either 
alone should be in the standard. 
Carried. 
Report of the committee accepted as read, with the amend- 
ment of Mr. Hudson. 
Adjourned till 2 P.M. to-morrow, with instructions to 
committees to report at that hour. 
Jan. 15th, 1874. 
JANUARY 16th, 1874, 8 p.m. 
Called to order by the President. 
Mr. Churchman wished no minutes taken by outside 
parties, and would expel any member violating this rule. 
No reporters will be allowed here at the meeting this 
evening. 
Mr. Warren moves adjournment till 7 P.M. 
Mr. Williams named S. Merry, W. H. Todd, D. Allen, 
and C. H. Crosby, as a committee to revise the standard on 
the general shape of Cochins. Nominations of said com- 
mittee confirmed. 
Adjourned on motion of Mr. Warren till 7 p.M. this day. 
JANUARY 16th, 7} P.M. 
Convention called to order. President Churchman in the 
Chair. 
Mr. Warren moves the appointment of a committee of 
three on Transportation by this Association. Carried. A. 
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D. Warren made Chairman, E. C. Skinner and W. H. 
Churchman added. 
Letters of C. J. Ward ordered, accepted, and filed, and 
the Secretary directed to communicate with them in rela- 
tion to the matter. 
Mr. Williams moves to add Mr. Sweet to the Committee 
on Transportation. 
Moved that former committee be empowered to select 
their associates as occasion may offer. 
Mr. Hudson moved that the committee consist of a mem- 
ber of each State Society. 
Mr. Warren would like the committee to consist of nine, 
all to be members of the A. P. A. 
Six members added, Todd, Gregg, Hudson, D. Allen, P. 
Williams, and Jos. M. Wade. 
Mr. Halsted suggests the appointment of members to act as 
judges at the various shows. 
Mr. Churchman supports the suggestion. 
Mr. Williams suggests a petition of one hundred or more 
names to the express companies to reduce their rates. 
Mr. Kinney complains of want of care on the part of 
the express companies. 
Mr Halsted thinks much more blame should attach. to 
the shipper. 
Committees on Revision of Standard called on to report. 
Mr. Halsted’s report received on French Class and Black 
Spanish. Accepted on Black Spanish. Accepted on Creve 
Coeurs. Accepted on Houdans. Accepted on La Fleche. 
Committee discharged. 
Committee on Light Brahmas report read and accepted. 
Committee discharged. 
Report of Committee on Dark Brahmas accepted. 
mittee discharged. 
Report on Buff Cochins read and accepted. Committee 
discharged. 
On motion of Mr. Atwood, the reports so far accepted are 
adopted by the Convention. 
Report on Partridge Cochins read and accepted and 
adopted. Committee discharged. 
(Continued in our next.) 
Com- 

oe, 
(For Fanciers’ Journal.) 
ON SCALES OF POINTS FOR JUDGING POULTRY. 
By L. Wrieat. 
As American fanciers appear at present to be considerably 
‘exercised’? about the revision of their Standard of Excel- 
| lence, and two of your correspondents have referred directly 
to my views upon the subject of a standard for judging 
birds, I have thought that a fuller expression of them may 
not be thought presumptious, and may, perhaps, prove of 
some use; the moreso that Mr. Woodward, while referring 
to me in terms far more flattering than I deserve, has, to 
some extent, misunderstood my meaning in coming to the 
conclusion that, “after many attempts to get around the 
difficulties which constantly present themselves, I have at 
last decided that any numeral standard must of necessity be 
a failure.” 
The remarks in an English journal, to which I have no 
doubt Mr. Woodward alludes, referred particularly to a ri- 
diculous proposal on the part of a small clique, not includ- 
ing at most more than half a dozen competent breeders, to 
meet and ‘fix’? a standard of points by mere opinion. This 
experiment had been already tried once, with a result known 
