How Large Do'Carp GrowP 
DEAR FOREST & STREAM: 
OU will find attached a clipping 
from the Portland Journal, of 
August 38rd, 1924, covering a rather 
unusually large carp which may be of 
interest to you and the readers of 
FOREST AND STREAM. 
It would be of interest to me to know 
if you have a record of the largest carp 
and how large they really grow. When 
I was a lad in southern Idaho on the 
Snake River, we used to catch carp 
(with a string and home-made hook) 
that weighed about twenty-five pounds, 
but never as large as this. 
Dr. LABAN A. STEEVES, Dallas, Oregon. 
(Reprint from Oregon Journal) 
Two JOURNAL NEWSIES CAPTURE CARP 
THAT Is ALMOST SIZE OF 
JONAH’S WHALE 
Jonah weighs 32 pounds, and was 
caught by two Journal newsies, Guy 
Tritto and John Ruscigno. The mon- 
ster fish weighed exactly half the weight 
of young Guy, who held the line. 
The boys were fishing on the small 
boat Lurline, near shore between Alder 
and Washington Streets. 
“He didn’t jerk like a big fish, and 
we almost lost him,” the boys explained. 
While landing the mammoth fish, 
John Ruscigno was all but pulled into 
the water when the fish made several 
struggles for freedom. 
Clarence Heyes, of the Pioneer Fish 
Company, No. 205 Yamhill Street, 
bought the fish from the boys and will 
put it on exhibition. 
If it lives, as it has every indication 
of doing, it will be turned over to the 
state for educational purposes or pub- 
lic exhibition. If it dies, it will be 
turned over to a taxidermist to prove 
that this particular fish story is true. 
Frederick Potter on the Beaver 
River Dam Project 
DEAR FOREST & STREAM: 
I HAVE read your editorial in the 
August FOREST AND STREAM regard- 
ing the Beaver River Dam, with a great 
deal of interest. I heartily endorse 
your stand, and I regret that this wan- 
ton taking of public lands for private 
use could not have been brought to the 
attention of the public in time to pre- 
vent this irreparable loss of one of the 
best game harbors in Herkimer County. 
I am especially interested in the 
Beaver River Dam project, because I 
have an interest in the Brandreth Pre- 
serve, which lies just north of Little 
Rapids Park, formerly owned by Dr. 
Trudeau. The raising of the Beaver 
River by a dam some thirteen miles 
down stream from Brandreth station 
is flooding about ten acres on the 
Brandreth Preserve. We, like the rest 
of the private owners, have had to take 
what settlement the Black River Regu- 
lating Board made for our flooded land 
and our lost stumpage. The Webb Pre- 
serve, which immediately adjoins us on 
the north and west, is one of the heavi- 
est private losers, aside from the Little 
Rapids Park which will be practically 
ruined. The “stealing” of private and 
state land for private enterprise, from 
which you and I or the public at large 
will derive absolutely no benefit, is a 
very serious menace. The mill and 
power companies are all powerful and, 
having succeeded in the Beaver River 
project, their appetites for future oper- 
ations will only be whetted. They have 
under: consideration many other pro- 
jects, such as power development on the 
Raquette, Ausable, St. Regis, Saranac 
and other watersheds. The Beaver 
River was only the beginning of a far- 
reaching plan. 
The damage that would 

The newsies with their large carp 

be done to the state forests would be 
incalculable. It behooves us, who are 
interested in conservation in the true 
sense of the word, to hang together 
and keep the public informed of any 
pending scheme before another “steal” 
is made as on the Beaver River. 
I recently returned from a tour of 
inspection of the Beaver River flow 
grounds and dam, where I secured the 
following information, which may be of 
interest to you: 
There are five lumber camps operat- 
ing, removing the pulp wood from the 
area to be flooded, besides some twenty 
shanties from which men sally forth 
daily to cut and burn all hardwood and 
brush on the land from which the pulp 
was cut last year. Think of the waste 
of burning all this fine hardwood! And 
then think of the thousands of destitute 
families in our cities who could benefit 
by getting this wood for fuel. The 
lumber company that is removing the 
pulp, claims the cost of removing the 
hardwood is prohibitive, so they are 
cutting all these fine trees; birch, beech 
and maple, and are burning them, it 
seems, on the altar of greed for the 
mighty dollar. 
In the burning of this hardwood and 
brush, there is the ever present menace 
of fire getting into the adjoining for- 
ests. Many are the places where the 
fires have gotten beyond control and 
leaped the “white line” of the flow 
ground into state timber. If it had not 
been for an exceptionally rainy sum-, 
mer, there would have been’ grave 
danger of forest fires in this section. 
Going down the Beaver River from 
Grassy Point, one can see literally hun- 
dreds of fires leaping high in the air— 
waiting for a chance to jump beyond the 
control of the few men who indifferently 
are looking after them. The whole sec- 
tion is gloomy in the thick smoke hang- 
ing low over the devastated forest, and 
the pungent smell of burning muck as- 
sails one’s nostrils. 
Some 4,500 acres are being cleared 
for flooding. Of this amount about 
4,000 acres is state land, primarily the 
property of the people. Did we, as 
people, have a voice in whether this 
dam should or should not be built? No, 
we did not! The measure making this 
“steal” possible was quietly put through 
the channels of politics, and the work 
was begun and pushed with the utmost 
speed. When the public awoke to its 
loss, many lumber camps were in opera- 
tion and hundreds of men were busy 
felling the trees of the state forest. 
It was a great “steal” and put through 
in the most subtle manner. 
Of this 4,000 acres of state forest 
land to be flooded, about 1,500 acres 
are of virgin timber land. Land that 
had been handed down to this genera- 
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