one. It is a great deal similar to fish- 
ing. Often the fisherman may not catch 
any fish, but he has a good time any- 
way. The memory of those few days 
up in the mountains keep the youthful 
spirit alive in the thoughts of the 
hunter all through the long winter. 
As the old sea captain said when asked 
about his luck—‘“We did not catch any 
fish, but we had a hell of a fine sail.” 
So be it with our hunting—we may not 
have shot our buck, but we had a won- 
derful trip, and next year we will go 
back and get him. 
JACK MAGEE, 
Continental, Ariz. 
Auto Touring Figures 
Compared 
DEAR FOREST AND STREAM: 
| WAS very much interested in Kath- 
ryn Holmes’ article in a recent num- 
ber of FOREST AND STREAM because it 
was so nearly like the experience of 
my wife and I on the same tour during 
1923. I was very much interested in 
making comparisons, and believing that 
FOREST AND STREAM readers might be 
too, beg to submit them. 
Our trip was almost the same as 
Miss Holmes’, and therefore the com- 
parison is more valuable. We started 
at Minneapolis, going out National 
Parks through Yellowstone, Glacier and 
to Lake Louise. At this point, however, 
we retraced our route via Calgary, 
Great Falls and Minneapolis over the 
Yellowstone Trail to Chicago and In- 
dianapolis. 
She drove 5,444 miles in 45 days, 
whereas we drove 5,242 miles in 46 
days, so you see how closely the trips 
tallied. 
The table at the top of the page il- ~ 
lustrates graphically the comparative 
cost of the two trips. 
Note: Car repair includes $11.25 
spent on account of the lugs on one 
rim wearing out and inability to re- 
place them for several days caused 
extra tire and repair expense. 
Mise. Personal includes $15.60 for 
medical attention to one member, sick 
fcur days. 
Hotels are high because we stayed at 
Going to the Sun and Chateau Lake 
Louise several days. 
NEWTON TAYLOR Topp. 
Indianapolis, Ind. 
Please Pardon Us, Mr. Emmett 
DEAR ForEST & STREAM: 
AM indeed very much indebted to 
Mr. Alfred C. Weed for the wealth of 
information he has furnished in clear- 
ing up the identity of that “mystery 
102 
Ours 
ave. 
amount 
304 gal. @ 25c 
Tire Repair 
Car Repair 
Miscellaneous 
Food 
Hotels 
Park Fees 
Amusements 
Misc. Personal 
fish” and I appreciate his kindness and 
thank him very much for supplying 
the same. 
I have been scanning eagerly the 
“DEAR FOREST AND STREAM” horizon 
for more light on the subject than that 
diffused by our own dear Ed., who ob- 
served that I might be describing a 
Gar! Oy, Gevalt! 
CHAS. EMMETT, 
Brooklyn, N. Y. 
Bass on the Submerged Fly 
DEAR FOREST AND STREAM: 
HE pleasurable surprise recently 
expressed by a correspondent over 
his successful use of the submerged fly 

Haunts of the bass 
Kathryn Hulme’s 
amount ave. 
252 gal. 32¢ 
50 qts. 28c 
$77.40 
14.00 
2.50 
$80.65 
13.90 
23.70 
11.05 
7.05 
119.14 
79.80 
12.20 
22.80 
48.30 
26 nts. $3.06 
$355.83 $430.59 
$9.57 

for black bass faintly echoes the long- 
continued enjoyment that the exclusive 
fly casters in the beautiful Juniata Val- 
ley, in Pennsylvania, have shared by 
this same method. As one of the pio- 
neers in this section to experiment with 
the deeply sunken bass fly, a glance at 
an experience of more than thirty years 
may not be unfruitful to ForEsT AND 
STREAM anglers. With our twin natu- 
ral bass streams, the Juniata river and 
the Raystown branch, jointly fertilizing 
one hundred and sixty miles of ter- 
ritory, an attractive menu is offered 
to the devotees of the artificial fly who 
seek this gamy negroid representative 
of the fresh water fishes. 
Both streams, mountain-born and 
wide-flowing, are fringed for long dis- 
tances with towering stone-faced and 
verdure-topped cliffs, and along whose 
shores are found many extensive boul- 
der-strewn pools. The gently irregular 
bottoms of the rivers, when not sur- 
faced with a pebbly or slaty covering, 
are frequently traversed diagonally by 
wide rocky ledges, whose deeply- 
caverned bases have been converted 
into ideal haunts by the black bass. It 
is in these pools and deep underwater 
retreats that the prudent user of the 
submerged bass fly receives his hoped- 
for reward. After experimenting with 
many types and sizes of flies in sub- 
surface fishing in these waters, I finally 
met with gratifying success by adopt- 
ing the smaller sized hooks, notably the 
Sproat 4 and even 5, made for me from 
specially toughened steel wire. These 
hooks I tied to superior single snells, 
and finally dressed them with the Pro- 
fessor, Seth Green and the Ferguson. 
type of flies—a fly whose general as- 
pect was an imitation of a natural 
grasshopper. Invariably, however, I 
used the tail feathers of the wild turkey 
for wings, and heavy brown or dark 
grey hackles. Then with a seven-ounce 
rod, an adaptable closely-braided oiled- 
