Oct. 19, 1907.] 
FOREST AND STREAM. 

Championship at Targets, 
) “Cincinnati, Oct. 10.—Editor Forest and Stream: It is a 
dong time since “48grs.’”’ wrote you any letter, and he 
would not do it now only a few of us have had an argu- 
qnent, and we want you to settle it for us. The question 
we are putting to you is rather a ticklish one, and none 
Vf us want to hurt anybody’s feelings. All we ask is to 
yave the atmosphere cleared up a bit. 
’ What decides the championship at targets? 
; Last year the Interstate Association introduced two 
aew features into the Grand American Handicap pro- 
ysramme, and they were the professional and the amateur 
thampionships of the United States. Both Mr. Walter 
‘4uff, who won the professional championship, and Mr. 
yuy Ward (then an amateur), who won the amateur 
shampionship, made great scores, and were_respectively 
\rreeted as the champions. This year, at Chicago, Mr. 
WV. R. Crosby won the professional championship, and 
ir. Hugh M. Clark won the amateur championship. 
136th men did great work and deserved all the credit they 
rot for beating the best there was in a long contest at 
00 targets from 18 yards. : 
* Now, then, what we are arguing about is this: Is the 
I; sterstate Association’s title of champion an empty one? 
li; does it convey its true meaning of the winner in an 
ppen-to-all contest, everybody on equal terms, or does it 
yi0t? 
Tn other words, does the title pass to a shooter whose 
Usublished scores (please note I have underscored the 
gvord “published”’) show him to have apparently made the 
righest average for all targets he has shot at during the 
Year? The majority of us, of which I am one, uphold 
“Vir. Crosby’s and Mr. Clark’s right to the titles for 1907 
ind 1908, until the next Grand American Handicap. Our 
dea is that a championship must represent something 
where everybody has been on equal terms. We throw 
yargets pretty hard in this section, and a shooter who 
‘spends his time attending tournaments held only in 
‘his part of the States would stand a poor show of win- 
“jing high average for the year. And we do occasionally 
tiear of a shooter dropping out of a tournament because 
ie is in bad form, or because the targets and conditions 
are too hard for him to make a good record on, and 
jae does not want his totals figured in “this year’s av- 
jsrage.”” There is another thing, too. It does not neces- 
jsarily follow that a man who has broken 94 per cent. out 
of 6000 targets shot is a better shot than a man who 
Jaas broken 93 per cent. out of 4000 targets. The per- 
lsentage is higher, but then were the conditions equal? 
| 48GRS, 
} [The Interstate Association championships decide the 
amateur and professional championships of the United 
3tates, because it is an organization having a recognized 
jaational scope and prestige, and because it observes 
very formality essential to the competition in a cham- 
oionship event. The high averages of the year are ir- 
elevant, immaterial, and impossible in this relation, for 
many good and sufficient reasons, first of which is that 
hey are not a championship; second, they are not from a 
4ecord of competition, as they merely set forth the per- 
(sonal averages of the respective shooters, in the sum 
‘otal of all their many different competitions—that is to 
say, while some shooters were present in some com- 
‘5etitions and absent in others, each tournament re- 
|3spectively was a competition; but the sum total of all 
“he tournaments was not a competition. Aside from all 
,his, the high averages of the year could not possibly be 
j:onsidered as a championship contest, because no two 
lmen shot at precisely the same number of targets; or 
4,ave a full authenticated record of all their tournament 
|;ompetition; or shot under like conditions as to_weather, 
Naber and distances of targets thrown, etc. Last, but 
vitally important, the averages could not be of a cham- 
jyxionship nature, because many of the tournaments had a 
‘;jliding handicap in the competition. Nearly every one 
\ ie that a handicap vitiates a championship.—Ep.] 


Monongahela Valley League. 
| Farrmont, W. Va., Oct. 9.—The wind-up of the 
Monongahela Valley League for the season of 1907 was 
Jziven at Fairmont Gun Club grounds, and was one of 
Jhe best shoots of the season. Forty-five shooters shot 
the programme. The scores were remarkable, as the 
Jsonditions were not of the best. The trapping was, as 
Jjisual, perfect, as only Coogle can make it. : 
| The principal event was the 100-bird championship, 




open to the shooters of the League, and was won by 
fohn Phillips, of Fairmont, with 97 out of 100. The 
rade was represented by Mr. Young, U. M. C. Co.; 
Mr. J. Garland, Peters Cartridge Co., and Mr. H. Taylor, 
|Dupont Co., who cashiered and was high average for the 
day. W. A. Wiedebusch was second and Dr. J. C. 
\Neely third. This ends a very successful season for the 
i) League, and promises to be a still greater one in 1908. 
i>cores: 
Shot Shot 
at. Broke. at. Broke. 
|W Wiedebusch. 200 181 COS Meas enccces 200 126 
= H Taylor..... 200 3=185 pm P Hikips Peccess 200 170 
&.A Lilley...:.. 200 168 G T Watson..... 200 169 
|} Merrifield...... 2 163 A H Donnelly.. 200. 176 
; : 178 Lye NGUL aos ore 20 8 173 
nif 168 GA Long. t.. dss 180 161 
if 164 H Heckman .... 180 155 
166 THA Wlie.icss. 180 189 
175 GC Garland: 27. 200 8168 
156 Mawhinney... 180 113 
125 Bi praaktass.. 200 141 
c 179 a eser i. svaces 120 103 
4}> Gilmore ...... 2 153 Dri Bones sess «a4 100 62 
+N Hendrickson. 180 154 Br Me Pulte vies. 100 56 
7? Amos ........ 120 T. Johnson <..2. 100 74 
i}? Leachman . 164 Wel Bales 22 100 76 
ti Magill 153 Cop iCariton:. 12 100 74 
1.2 P Fitch 46 C _Shannon....... 60 28 
.}~ D Brennan 111 ya SRCAC UMS tances ae 20 13 
th C Ellis.... 160 F Donahue ..... 100 50 
% Gerstell 106 W Woods ........ 20 13 
44> Connaway..... 200 «174 G Milles vis0. 2 40 25 
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Montclair Gun Club. 
Monrcrarr, N. J., Oct. 12.—Some ten clubs were repre- 
sented here to-day in the all-day tournament. Ten events 
of 15 targets each were run off, all for silver prizes, 
twenty-five marksmen participating. Messrs. Winslow, 
Dukes, Piercy, Allan, Boxall, Batten and Moffett cap- 
tured one or more first prizes. Messrs. Carlough, Meyer, 
Allan and Dr. Culver each took two second prizes, while 
Messrs. Dukes, Winslow, Carlough, Colquitt, Moffett, 
Allan and Daniels each was a winner of_a fourth prize. 
Luncheon was served at 1 o’clock by Caterer Ridgway 
to the visitors, and at the close of the shoot stages and 
automobiles conveyed the visitors to the Montclair club, 
where a most elaborate dinner was served to the repre- 
sentatives of some fifteen or sixteen clubs and associa- 
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