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within the jarifdicion of the: Councell 
was gueflio fai G non Furis, and ought to 
be tried by-the country. 
To whom the King’s majeftie angerly 
replied, did not I tell you before that you 
haue notheing but focrth of the power 
I give you, who then fhall direct my tryal? 
I dee knowe yourmeaneing, but I will 
not be {ce tryed; doe not.} fee that 
through the {flougifhneffle of kings & 
Princes, whoe becaufe they would not 
fitt in parliament themfelves have ad- 
mitted divided bodyes as the vpper houie 
& the lower, whereas if Kings & 
Princes fate themfelveS in parliament as 
they might doe, & call before them the 
members of the fame together as al- 
fitante to the Kinge, he fhould be the 
better refpected. 
Have I ever for any fubje& of my 
land, in any cafe which I affeéted as in 
the late cafe-of the union; did I cuer 
write, fend, or folicit any of you, but 
Jeft you to your felves, and what hath 
come of this fufterance? 
None doe oppole themfelves againft the 
jurifdicion of the Councell inthe marches, 
but certaine light headed iellowes cail- 
ing them by the Scottith name Mounteinge 
fellowes, in Englifh Swaggeringe fellowes, 
fach as Herbert Crofts, and others, which 
he named to the number of three or fower. 
who, becaufe they weuld opprefle the 
meaner people, and bear, the whole fway 
of their countrey, without controllement, 
doe oppofe themfélves againft government 
& the ftate of a Kinge, to whome they 
knowe not what apperteyneth. 
I knowe there might be a wifer Kinge 
and more verteous, and yet I knowe I 
am noe foole, I came not in as an viurper, 
but as a rightful Kinge, difcended di- 
rectly out of the loynes of the Kings of 
this land, and what prerogative to me 
therein apperteyneth, I will hold & mayn- 
_teyne to the vttermof. 
The cafe now in queftion is not the 
prefidents of the marches of Wales only, 
but through your hardynefle to animate 
amen to difobedience, fee you not what 
comes of it, that the people of the fower 
fhires will not be obedient to the laft in- 
ftructions for matters ef xl. & vnder. 
Is it not ‘the prefidents of Yorke his 
cafe heere prefent, naye is it not allfo the 
‘Churches cafe, here my Lord of Canter- 
bury prefent, none of thefe can proceed 
in any Courfé of juice by reafon of 
your prohibitions graunted, weh I defire 
“you to {pare. 
Lords Chiefe Juftices & Chiefe 
of the Kirgs 
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lar mb! 
The 
Baron wth this fpeech 
Curious Conduét of King Fames, Lord Coke, Se. ° | [Sup 
fwelled fo wth anger, that teares felt 
from them. 
The Kinge further faid, I have now 
unfoulded unto you the true laweof free 
Monarchies & what F may doe. And 
you fhall fhortly vnderftand what Iameane 
to doe, I will hear the reafons that fhalbe 
made of each fide, & will hould you to the 
poynt, and when I dce perceave the force 
of any argument or reafon I will trulg 
tell you what I thinke thereof (as I thall 
give accompt to God) not propofeing to 
bring in any noviltye for the enlarge- 
ing of my owne prerogative nor reftraine-- 
ing of prchibicions but in cafes where 
they have grewne of late & have not here-- 
tofore been granted. 
Tell me faid the Kinge to the Judges 
what are the reafons that move this, for 
I proteft but that I vnderftand fome of 
you have refolved againi that jurifdicion: 
for thofe fhires I would leave it to your- 
felyes to judge. But nowe Res non eff 
integra... Say that youhave not fo affirm- 
ed & I have done. ; 
‘The judges anfwered the cafe is of 
great waight and moment the queition 
not knowne to thers before nor agreed on 
when they came into that place, therefore 
they defired time to confider thereof. 
The Kinge aniwered, the queftion is 
not new, it hath beene twice debated in 
my owne prefence and oftener before the: 
Lords, and the inftrucions wch are New 
refifted were made by my Councell & the 
Lerd Chiefe Juttice of the Comon Pleas 
therefore you neede nof to defire tyme to- 
confider thereof. 
Then faid "the Lord Coke, they had 
not debated the caufe and conferred the 
reafons to agree what fhould be faid and 
he was affrayde that if they fhould an- 
fwere fingle it would fall out as was faid 
of the old Brittans Dum jfinguld pugnant 
univerfi Vincuntur. 
The Kinge faid I fhould have faid foe 
to you whilft every Court ftrives for its 
owne jurifdicion the generall jurifdicion 
goeth to wracke. 
The Lord Coke fayed this is a mat- 
ter of fact @ ad quejlionem fadii non re- 
fpoudent jurifperiit. 
Never tell me thaf faid the Kinge, It 
is a queftion of fa& whether this. or that 
towne in Gloucefterfhire be in the mara 
ches of Wales or noe,. but whether the 
fower fhires be comprehended in the 
meaning of the ftatute ynder the words 
of marches of Wales is not gue/?io fadiz. 
Well, quoth the. Kinge, I will keepe 
y determinacion to my. lelfe till the end, 
.& fith you defre tyme I wali leave vou 
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