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that*veterinary surgeons ought to go round through the herds and select out 
every apparently diseased animal, and have it destroyed or removed with a view 
to treatment for its recovery? From that I conclude most certainly that I 
meant to say that it was not safe to have that animal in the herd. That is my: 
opinion; and I said at the last Conference that every owner for his own sake 
ought to destroy diseased animals. I must say that Mr. Pound has altered his 
opinion, an assertion that I base upon his article in the Agricultural Journal 
two months ago. I may say that I have read every article which Mr. Pound 
has printed. Not only has Mr. Pound altered his opinion, but one of the lead- 
ing bacteriological authorities of America has taken the same stand. I think 
that I base my statements upon the practical results of my own observations. 
Mr. Pound speaks of the cost of tuberculin, but I based my remarks upon the 
fact that I had to pay Gd. per dose, and on the fact that I was told that 
whether one dose or fifty it was 6d. for each. We appear to be able to 
get it cheaper now. I do not wish to deny that if a cow’s udder is 
affected with tuberculosis its milk is unsafe to use. That milk is not 
safe to use; but how are we to know whether the animal is affected with 
tuberculosis of the udder? If we apply the tuberculin test the cow may 
react, but how are we to distinguish where the tuberculosis is located ? 
Every class of animal and bird is affected with tuberculosis more or less. 
Now that Mr. Pound is present, I would like to make a statement in 
connection with the tuberculin test. He may no doubt take the opportunity 
of refuting it. In the manufacture of tuberculin, it is stated that nothing is 
introduced whereby any disease can be transmitted into the animal into which 
it is injected. I may say, however, that I applied that test to six head of calves 
between the ages of ten months and fifteen months. One of them was a pure- 
bred Jersey bull, which I intended to breed from. The operation was carried 
out in the presence of the slaughtering inspector from Maryborough, and 
there was no reaction. Some six or seven months afterwards that bull developed 
alump. The lump grew to over 1 1b. in weight, and, being accordingly afraid to 
breed from the animal, I destroyed him. 1 got out the lump, and found inside 
yellow grains, from which was oozing yellow matter. Mr. Pound may be able 
to tell me what that was. 
Mr. 0. J. Pounp: Neither I, nor anybody else, could tell without an 
examination. 
Mr. Dean: The heifers also developed lumps on the jaw—actinomycosis. 
LT have been breeding cattle in Maryborough for a number of years, and can 
tell you that I have never had any case of lump under the jaw, excepting in 
this imstance. What am I to infer? Mr. Pound says the tuberculin is 
guaranteed absolutely pure, and cannot convey disease, but it certainly seems 
that by injecting this poison into our herds we are certainly running a certain 
amount of danger. Tuberculosis, scientists tell us, is not hereditary. Acti- 
nomycosis, practical results tell us, is. Some people confound the two, but 
they are entirely distinct. In this matter of testing, should we not be 
consistent, and see that every mother is tested? If the milk from a cow will - 
convey tuberculosis to its own calf, are we not justified in coming to the other 
conclusion, and say that the milk of a tuberculous mother will give the same 
disease to the child. During my life I have spent twenty years in this country in 
dairying, and I also followed it up in the old country. During that time I have 
always remembered a statement once made to me by my mother—and one which 
my experience has borne out—that she had found during her life that those. 
people who systematically and regularly used the largest quantity of milk 
maintained or enjoyed the best stute of health and were the freest from 
disease. One doctor in England takes this stand. He says in effeet—* In 
every case of consumption which I have taken in its early stages, and where it 
has been practicable to follow my instructions, I have sent that person close 
to some dairy, and they have been instructed to get at least daily one pint of ° 
milk from the cow the moment it is taken from her, and I have never known a 
ease to fail to recover.’ That is a practical result. I think we are quite. 
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